“I came to this march for the message that white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture,” Cvjetanovic opined. “It is not perfect; there are flaws to it, of course. However I do believe that the replacement of the statue will be the slow replacement of white heritage within the United States and the people who fought and defended and built their homeland. Robert E Lee is a great example of that. He wasn’t a perfect man, but I want to honor and respect what he stood for during his time.”
Let me pause to stretch my eyeballs since I just rolled them so hard I think they’re sprained.
Okay. So.
UNFORTUNATELY……white nationalists haven’t figured out a way to define their culture outside of how it relates to oppressing everyone else. I’m not even joking or throwing shade or making light. I can go on Twitter right now and make a culturally specific hashtag that other Black people will relate to, and it has nothing to do with hate or oppression. We’ll be celebrating a shared kinship and experience in this country, and of course white people will chime in with how excluded they feel, but that’s their problem not mine. Every culture in the US can do that.
Until white people can all come together and find some way to express the good things about being white that aren’t somehow related to the bad things that happen to everyone else, you don’t really get to celebrate just simply being white. I’m sorry if that sounds unfair to you, that Black people can celebrate being Black but white people can’t celebrate being white, but to me it seems a very small price to pay for all the benefits of being white at the expense of everyone else.
We celebrate being Black because y’all’s grandpas did this, brought us here, and separated us from our heritage and culture. So we had to BUILD one and the only thing we had in common were the chains (and religion) forced on us by white people and how we’re treated by this country because of our skin color. We built a culture because we had no access to our heritage. Our culture is on our skin because that’s the way y’all set it up. If you want to celebrate your heritage, trace it back to wherever you came from and put on some lederhosen or a kilt or a beret or some wooden shoes, because you can actually trace where you came from. You don’t get to just celebrate simply being white and the *only* reason you even want to is because you feel threatened by everyone else who isn’t.
there’s a tongue in cheek way jews summarize a lot of our holiday celebrations: ‘they tried to kill us, they failed, let’s eat!’. when you have that kind of heritage, you don’t feel all that sympathetic when one of the guys that’s trying to kill you whines about how he just doesn’t feel special enough. like rafi-dangelo says, figure out what part of your heritage to celebrate that isn’t about wearing the jackboot pressed down on the rest of our necks. we’ll be more than happy to celebrate it with you.
there is no such thing as ‘white culture’, that’s why.
i can go to the czech heritage festival in new prague every year and eat kolaches until i burst, and it doesn’t hurt anyone. no one is trying to stop me, either. i am pretty sure y’all don’t even slightly have a problem with that.
i’m also pretty sure mister tiki party up there would not enjoy it, because it doesn’t involve asserting his dominance over people, and that’s what he’s really about. his excuses are bullshit. he’s just a failure at life and wants to take it out on anyone but himself.
you can celebrate celtic cultures, norse ancestors, russian music and food, you can hoist a glass at oktoberfest, there are gatherings and museums and allsorts. any european culture you name. but not ‘white culture’ because THAT ISN’T A THING YOU RACIST BLOWHARD.
Honestly, there are also things to be said about some of the types of people that (Jefferson’s baby) UVA has attracted from the get-go. I would be surprised if Richard Spencer were the only alum there to take the place “back” with their tiki torches.
Also reminded again of Scalzi’s too-apt observation: The “alt-right” are basically those assholes from your college dorm who were always “just playing devil’s advocate” about the topics of slavery and women’s rights.
Yeah, I remember them a little too well. That’s hardly limited to UVA, of course. And it remains a much less comfortable discussion, compared to blaming some other demographics with a lot less actual power. They like it that way, too.
Seeing a bunch of white people chant “you’re not replacing us” when they’ve benefitted culturally for generations from Indigenous genocide is chilling. These people are disgusting, they have violence in their hearts, they do not get to have a right to be heard or their viewpoints entertained.
yeah so there’s a neo nazi/white supremacy rally going on in charlottesville where they are literally chanting “blood and soil!!” (an actual nazi saying) and the police are doing absolutely nothing about it. no tear gas, no national guard, no heavy police force,, these TERRORISTS are getting away with spreading hatred towards the marginalized and i am absolutely sickened
spread this like wildfire
Is that an actual picture of the event bc wtf that looks like half the campus
unfortunately yes, here are some more photos from the terrorist rally:
thankfully a lot of the students are against what’s happening on campus, but there’s something very wrong with this photo. the good guys are hiding their faces and the bad guys are not. this world is getting uglier to the point where human decency has to be hidden.
Some clarification: Not many students are even back yet, this early in August. Richard Spencer and the gang basically picked their timing to bus in these people to “take back” UVA, to when they could outnumber the opposition and look like they were really the dominant voice.
Pretty good summary I saw earlier on Twitter, from Megh Drummond in Charlottesville:
Not actually locals. 80% of Charlottesville voted for Clinton and we voted to remove confederate statues. Now we have the KKK here.
“What brings us together is that we are white, we are a people, we will not be replaced,” Spencer said at an afternoon protest, the first of two rallies he led in the town where he once attended the University of Virginia.
At the second rally, dozens of torch-bearing protesters gathered in a city park Saturday evening and chanted “You will not replace us” and “Russia is our friend,” local television footage shows. Spencer was not shown addressing that gathering, but he tweeted a photo of himself standing in the crowd carrying what appeared to be a bamboo tiki torch.
The evening protest was short-lived. About 10 minutes in, an altercation between Spencer’s group and counterprotesters drew police to the scene, and the crowd quickly dispersed, the Charlottesville Daily Progress reported.
So they waited until now, and brought in a lot more assholes with more tiki torches when they expected to find less direct opposition.
I’m from Virginia (unlike Richard Spencer), and there’s more than enough bad history there. But, I’ve been seeing some misinterpretations of what was going on here. When the whole thing was really set off by people trying to do the right thing with some of that ugly history, and get that monument taken down.
My reporting on the Stars of David meme quickly went viral. At this moment it’s been shared more than 14,000 times by the likes of CNN’s own Jake Tapper and MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, who’s had his own run-ins with the president as of late. In the past, when a post or story of mine has garnered that much attention, I’ve always dealt with the inevitable criticism and harassment that follows. Sure enough, it wasn’t far behind.
Before the hour was up, I was receiving messages from the usual customers: anonymous accounts with Pepe avatars and bios declaring themselves “ethnonationalists” and “white identitarians.” Despite my Southern Baptist upbringing, they assumed I was Jewish because I’d uncovered anti-Semitism, and so the threats and memes predictably featured pictures of Adolf Hitler, scenes from the Holocaust and other anti-Semitic garbage. I was peppered with the usual slurs and insults before a user calling his or herself “Pepe’s Imam” told me: “There’s a civil war coming, leftist. Memes are the least of your problems.”
…I learned last year the best strategy is to be open about this kind of stuff and expose it however possible. On my Twitter feed I prepared screenshots of the offending rhetoric while critics accused me of lying. The left is the violent group, they told me while linking to stories about clashes with antifascist groups. In the same thread, as they claimed I’d made the whole thing up, the anti-Semitic materials and threats were piling up.
Things didn’t slow down.
The Daily Stormer, the most popular Neo-Nazi publication in America, set its sights on me and declared my agenda as “Jewish.”
For everyone who has replied to my original post about the CNN Stars of David meme and the correlation between antisemitism and hatred of “the media” with some version of “well CNN is terrible and President Trump has a Jewish daughter and Jews in his administration so he can’t possibly be an antisemite” as though my post and point was solely about CNN and President Trump (spoiler alert, those were illustrations of a greater issue and you should learn to read a full post instead of cherry picking discrete parts to, unsuccessfully, disprove the entire post). Read Jared Yates Sexton’s full piece at Politico.
I’d like to add that HanAssholeSolo has a history of doxxing women, too. He’s also part of a group that’s been doxxing anyone who works for CNN. This is what all the Pepe types do, they doxx anyone they don’t like to police their speech and silence them. CNN is very, very likely aware of this, too, which is how we know who HanAssholeSolo is and what kind of person he is in the first place.
The five men who crashed an Indigenous ceremony in Halifax over the weekend, identifying themselves with a “Western chauvinist” fraternity, are members of the Canadian Armed Forces and could face discipline as a result of their actions.
The Department of National Defence confirmed to VICE News on Tuesday that all five of the self-styled “Proud Boys” are enlisted in the Canadian Forces. Four are in the navy, and one is enlisted in the army. As of Tuesday afternoon, a sixth member of the Canadian Armed Forces is now facing disciplinary action in connection to the protest, although it remains unclear as to how they are connected.
While the government couldn’t yet comment as to whether discipline would be coming, as that decision will be made through the chain-of-command, Rear Admiral John Newton told reporters on Tuesday they would have their files reviewed, both administratively and through the military police system.
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