in japanese, there’s a term for a person who dual wields swords called “ryoutoutsukai”, literally meaning something along the lines of “two sword user”. it’s ALSO a euphemism for bisexuality
Now I hear people say they don’t like the word bisexual. They feel is has a negative and limiting connotation. But for me it will always be a cherished doorway to a new world. It represents freedom, honesty, and self-realization as no other word ever has.“
Marcella Bucknam, former national coordinator for BiNet USA, from Bisexual Resource Guide: 4th Edition
It’s fine to identify as pansexual if that is what you’re most comfortable with, and there’s nothing inherently bad about it, but it’s pretty hard to deny that “pansexual” getting big as a term has a really fucked up biphobic and transphobic background, considering that it basically got popularized on the internet as “we’re more progressive than bi people because we actually loooove people for who they are, not just their genitals, also we’ll fuck trans/NB people too,” and it really, really shows in a lot of discourse and slogans from pan bloggers, and the mogai crowd. I’m not surprised at all people have finally lost patience with this shit
I’m pansexual because I see people who are nonbinary, trans, bisexual, homosexual, etc. I see them as people. But hey, I guess I’m disgusting for that.
that’s you
this pansexual discourse is not necessary bc bi just means two or more while pan means all it’s not discriminating bi it’s just something people identify by so the better option would be to delete this post bc its entirely unnecessary
Nah
you drinking some reading comprehension juice is necessary
If I could ask only one thing of the community, it would be that we stop arguing over what ‘bi’ and ‘pan’ mean. they can have heavy overlap – they can have the same fucking meaning, even – and still both be valid identifiers. I identify as bi but others might have the same attraction experiences as me and identify as pan. it’s fine! they are both fine! can we stop arguing about this please? especially people who are neither bi nor pan???
To expand on this, my revolutionary idea includes
people who identify as bi not defining what it means to be pan
people who identify as pan not defining what it means to be bi
You can define why you identify as bi or pan without including an explanation for why you don’t think the other identity describes your experience
this post is my big ‘fuck you’ to the people who respond to someone IDing as bi or pan with ‘but why don’t you identify as [the other orientation]?’
it’s seriously screwed up that bi and pan ppl are being pitted against each other like this, as if our experiences have to be completely different for both labels to exist. As though if it turns out we have even slightly overlapping definitions of bi and pan, only one (1) orientation label will be allowed to continue being used
Don’t ask people why they don’t identify as pan if they say they are bi
Don’t ask people why they identify as bi if if they say they are pan
(The answer is Fuck you)
Bye
I would add that of course it wasn’t all lesbians acting like that. Just essentially the same dodgy political subset who still prefer to act crappy about assumed proximity/“availability” to men in general.
That nastier ramped-up version was just as hard to avoid encountering, though.
There are also reasons some of us still react very, very badly to the same old shit minus that specific embellishing touch. And apparently we’re not supposed to remember that ever happened.
seriously though bisexuality being defined as attraction to men and women is a heterosexual’s definition of bisexuality actual bisexual groups and organizations have been defining it as attraction to two or more genders or same and other genders since the nineties and plenty of nb people actually id as bi and refusing to accept how we define ourselves is so absurdly biphobic and heterosexist and jfc it’s 2014 can other queer people fucking realize and acknowledge this
The purple stripe on the bi flag is meant to represent attraction to nb genders and the bisexual manifesto published in Anything That Moves includes the lines “Do not assume that bisexuality is binary or duogamous in nature … In fact, don’t assume that there are only two genders.” That was published in 1990. It’s older than a lot of people here, including me, and older than terms like “pansexual” and “polysexual” by at least a decade. Bi history is important.
Hello! ^^ I think you might be overthinking it a tiny bit, bisexual people can (and do) find people outside of the binary attractive, and you wouldn’t feel comfortable using the pansexual label, so I think you’re probably in the right label for you :3 With love, Bi-Positive.
Bisexual means ‘two or more’ and has meant that in this context since the early 90s. And there are bisexual nonbinary people (like me). Definitely overthinking it. ❤
I’ve heard “bisexual” being defined as attraction to both one’s own and other genders. That’s still two groups, hence “bi”, but also recognises the entire gender spectrum.
Yeah, except that those of us who are non-binary or agender don’t necessarily have a same gender to be attracted to, which is part of why I am so insistent on the version that has been community-standard since I came out a quarter century ago.
Fact: Bisexual people in different gender relationships are basically straight, and bisexual people in same gender relationships are basically gay. Baking powder is basically flour so you can more or less use them as substitutes for each other. Tigers are basically large house cats and make suitable pets. Money is basically paper so you can get away with paying for goods and services using the A4 sheets you’d find in a printer. Pillows are basically just feathers so as a substitute if no pillow is available just rest your head on a live duck.
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