Lesbians that accept bi girls until they date a man, then call them bihets and say they deserve any abuse they get, are the fedora-wearing Nice Guys of the wlw world.
“Have you ever tried not being gay?” has been consistently recognized within lgbt circles for its absurdity and wilfull ignorance of our reality, so you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid to turn around and then refuse to see the problem with “if bi women don’t want men to abuse them just stop being bi :)”
I mean they aren’t stupid, they are making an environment where youngsters are blind to abuse within the community cause outside is worse
Rightwing pressure group the TaxPayers’ Alliance has admitted it illegally fired and vilified whistleblower Shahmir Sanni.
Sanni became the target of vitriol after he revealed the massive overspending by Vote Leave during the 2016 Brexit campaign. At the time, he was described as a ‘Walter Mitty fantasist’ by Matthew Elliot, head of Vote Leave, to the BBC. He was also targeted by Downing Street, who released a statement outing Sanni as gay. The whistleblower was then fired from running TaxPayers’ Alliance’s social media.
However, according to The Guardian, the alliance have now conceded they acted illegally. This makes them liable to pay substantial damages.
I saw something about the benefits of growing up QUILTBAG in a more liberal and not so religious family. I didn’t want to hijack that discussion, but it did get me thinking again when I should have been getting to sleep. 🙂
My mother was, unfortunately, one who managed some pretty raging mental health concern trolling styley bi- and transphobia without any kind of religious framework to try to hang that on. She also relied on some transphobic Second Wave thinking there. I’m sure I’ve mentioned some of this before.
It was better not to be lesbian or gay because life is inevitably harder, but they couldn’t help it so they were basically OK. She also believed that many lesbians’ orientation is a result of abuse, but they still couldn’t help that. (Somehow bi people who had also mostly been twisted by abuse could help their orientation, however. I’m still not sure how that works.) Still a very condescending kind of homophobia, but she really did have lesbian and gay friends who presumably didn’t know about her attitudes there. A couple of my friends who were acceptably queer and having problems with their (mostly ostentatiously liberal professor) families also lived with us for a while. That was fine, and their families should be ashamed of treating them so badly.
Anybody she *did* perceive as being able to help it was seriously mentally ill by definition. She actually warned me to stay away from several “crazy” out bi/pan acquaintances in high school like it was catching (she may have had suspicions about me then). And I got threatened with being committed and she *did* force me into more therapy and meds when a friend outed me as bi my first year of college. Because I only thought that because of my terrible mental health. It might be fixable craziness from horrible abuse (that never even happened).
That is a major reason I am not fond of heavy reliance on the “Born That Way, so please don’t hurt me!” arguments. Because that can also be used to abuse people, over things that are nobody else’s business in the first place. I can see where some people are coming from with that feeling comforting, but yeah. It does not always help people.
My longterm best friend at that time (a lesbian) also had two ostentatiously liberal atheist parents, and her mother acted awful and withheld funding until she changed universities to get her away from Teh Gay. That was quite a feat, considering my friend had an educational trust set up by her paternal grandparents, and it wasn’t even Mom’s money and she wasn’t involved in admistering it–but, she somehow made good on the threats and held up those funds anyway.
That’s when my friend ended up back in town, enrolled at the university where both her parents taught and where Mom could keep an eye on her. In the abstract, at least LG people were cool. When it was her kid, however… 😐 I could also tell that her mom assumed we were involved before that, though apparently I was less of a threat than her known girlfriend at First University. Even with some added classist horror there. Known GF was very threatening.
My friend also ended up getting forced/coerced into psych treatment. And they found a totally secular shrink who was willing to diagnose her with Dependant Personality Disorder. Which indicated cutting off all contact with her girlfriend, for therapeutic reasons, and basically letting her parents tell her every move to make For Her Own Good. Because unhealthy dependence on the GF. Yep. I only wish I were kidding. She was suddenly suicidal a lot, caught in that kind of situation, which obviously justified that treatment. Her dad didn’t agree, but did nothing to intervene, probably because he was also afraid of her mother’s abusive behavior.
I haven’t talked to her in years, after she tried to make a new start in a different state. And I hope that helped her get the space to recover some.
So, yeah. Certain strains of religious involvement really encourage treating people like shit, but atheism is definitely no guarantee against finding other excuses for not so great attitudes and behavior. Some people just want to act judgmental and abusive, though it may still be good that they aren’t being directly fed as many excuses and encouragement. A lot of them will still come up with their own excuses, though, even if they have to rely on the DSM instead of often odd interpretations of religious texts.
A post old enough that I was at least still hoping (the pronounceable) QUILTBAG would catch on, which just got a note.
Only part of what I was talking about recently with having very little patience anymore for Zombie Bad ‘70s Politics, from too much exposure. But definitely part of it.
The report takes data from 2011 to 2014 to assess healthcare amongst lesbian, gay, bisexual, and straight adults in the state. Overall, the authors of the report found LGB adults have ‘similar or better rates of insurance coverage compared to straight women and men’, but they are more likely to delay seeking medical attention.
Previous reports support this finding, and it often comes down to discrimination. Susan Babey, a co-author of the new report, confirmed this: ‘Sexual minorities who have had a bad experience with a medical provider because of their sexual orientation may try to avoid repeating it.’
for the last……..i don’t know, 5 or so years, my m.o. regarding internet bisexual disourse has largely been to ignore it and encourage other bi people to do the same. it made sense to me because as far as i could see it was an issue that exclusively existed on this site. which isn’t to say i didn’t think it was harmful – i hated myself for years as a direct result of the things other lgbt people said about bisexual women on here – but i thought the harm could largely be avoided by blocking the few loudmouths who were trying to start shit and hanging with people who weren’t evil.
i no longer feel that way.
i no longer feel that way because, as of yesterday, you absolute fucking buffoons have ran your mouth so far that your fire new radical materialist feminist discourse so hot even fellow lgbts cant handle????????? has reached lena fucking dunham
do you want to know WHY your radical materialist feminist discourse reached lena dunham?????
because a bisexual journalist made this simple ass tweet
and in response, some straight white woman decided to tweet this
which would have just stayed straight nonsense if an extremely smart and clever white lesbian writer friend of hers hadn’t decided to join in with a searing hot take based on a radical perspective towards gender that could only have been achieved with her clearly useful phd in queer literature
which would have just stayed mildly irritating if she and the rest of her friends hadn’t proceeded to defend themselves by arguing that bi women deserve rape and abuse actually
which would have only been horrifyingly offensive if all of these people weren’t 1.) people who make money writing about lgbt shit that 2.) were tweeting from their work accounts where 3.) they have enough reach to be followed by actually influential people such as comrade lena dunham
so seeing as the “close your eyes and maybe itll go away” method has CLEARLY failed, i am genuinely pleased to announce my new tactic. its called
Can I also just draw out here that their argument is LITERALLY that “women who sleep with men deserve what happens to them.”
Like.
This kind of person is, straight (haha) up, the kind of person who is only here for “I want mine”. If they’d been born a straight guy they’d be the worst kind of bros.
This is a thing that happens: I know PLENTY of straight white women whose grasp of feminism is limited strictly to “this affects me, so it’s important”. And of every other stripe of identity.
But never mistake it for anything than what it is.
I recognize one of the names there
This woman gets paid for writing her opinions, having hot takes like “bi women deserve to suffer because of their sexuality”, “Picasso dating a 17 y/o girl when he was 45 is not that bad” and some bullshit stupid about butch women having male privilege
As somebody from queer journalism twitter lemme just say fuck this bitch and I see this shit all the time
Also fuck that person for saying an autistic woman has ‘faux empathy’ tbqh.
As the legislative session winds to a close for the year, Assembly Bill 2943 was removed from consideration on the final day of debate. Although California passed the nation’s first-ever bill outlawing conversion therapy in 2012, AB 2943 would have built on the previous legislation by expanding its scope.
In addition to preventing the harmful, discredited practice from being performed on individuals over the age of 18, it defined any attempt to “cure” the sexual orientation or gender identity of an LGBTQ person as “fraud.”
AB 2943 passed both the California Assembly and the Senate with wide majorities early in the year and was set to head to Gov. Jerry Brown’s desk following one final vote in the lower house of the legislature. Brown, a Democrat who has signed many pro-LGBTQ bills during his time in the governor’s mansion, was widely expected to approve it.
I only wish I were kidding. She was suddenly suicidal a lot, caught in that kind of situation, which obviously justified that treatment. Her dad didn’t agree, but did nothing to intervene, probably because he was also afraid of her mother’s abusive behavior.
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