Those new pants for Mr. C did get delivered earlier, and I couldn’t resist opening it up for a look just now.

It’s kind of hard to see here, between the lighting and laying charcoal grey on top of black. But, compared as flat as I could get them? This new pair does seem to have more leg room than the new Horrible Trousers on top which prompted me to try to find some that fit better. The other pair in that order look about the same leg width, comparing.

So, hopefully these will have more room, and fit decently otherwise. *fingers crossed* I’m not bad at eyeballing fit for him too by now, and these at least don’t look blatantly wrong.

They’re definitely not smaller through the legs, at least. And he should be able to return them easily enough in store if he doesn’t like them, worst case.

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Based on some recommendations after a quick search, I may just try getting a couple of pairs of M&S “regular fit” for him to try. No crazy sizing to try to figure out, and they have apparently worked pretty well for some other people with muscular legs. With “big and tall” sizes readily available. That’s also cheaper than what he’s been buying.

I wouldn’t have thought to look there, and apparently neither did he so far.

And there should be two pairs in slightly different styles arriving tomorrow, for around £50 total 👍 Hopefully at least one will actually fit.

Based on some recommendations after a quick search, I may just try getting a couple of pairs of M&S “regular fit” for him to try. No crazy sizing to try to figure out, and they have apparently worked pretty well for some other people with muscular legs. With “big and tall” sizes readily available. That’s also cheaper than what he’s been buying.

I wouldn’t have thought to look there, and apparently neither did he so far.

I may have mentioned before that Mr. C has half-jokingly said more than once that maybe he should take a cheap flight to Stockholm to buy some trousers that fit. Because he’s far enough outside the norm here, needing only like a 44/34 now, that it’s been proving harder than it should. (Larger waistband and inseam both on the same garment? Tricky where average male height is like 5’7" and people tend toward way smaller frames than either of ours.) He had much better luck finding things that worked just at Target or similar when Previous Job kept sending him to the US, but that’s been a while now.

Anyway, he did end up with at least one day free in Stockholm on his way to Helsinki for Worldcon. And, running pretty low on pants that didn’t have holes in them, he took the opportunity to buy a couple of pairs while he was back home!

Spoiler: they really really don’t fit better 😦

The ones he set off in for another work trip this morning looked even more uncomfortably tight than the new pair I’d already seen. The two-tone effect on these really did not help visually, though.

They also illustrate one major problem: relaxed cuts are just not in now. And that’s really suboptimal for Mr. Burly Viking here. (And not just him, I’m sure.)

I didn’t say anything about either pair, as seriously as anything I could think of failed the “is this helpful?” test. Yeah, he is no doubt extremely aware that those pants are tight. He’s the one who bought and is wearing them, on his own body. As the best he could find in a pinch, but still.

I really didn’t fall for him because of his fashion sense, which is his business. But, those new pants just do not look comfortable at all–besides terrible on.

So, I’m going ahead and looking for some different options now, on the basis that more hopefully better-fitting pants probably wouldn’t be unwelcome when he is basically down to those two new pairs for now 😵 I mean, I try extra-hard not to be intrusive with stuff like that, unlike my mother, and may well err toward the other side sometimes with boundaries. (Like with that hair matting incident, yeah.) But, it does seem like he really could use some help finding more clothes now.

Trying one strategy I’d considered before, to hopefully address some specific fit problems: clothing designed with larger thighs in mind. He may not have been working out much for a while now–and was never that seriously into it– but he basically has a power lifter’s legs by default.

Directly leading to the more recent persistent problem with ripping the seats out of his britches because they don’t have enough thigh room, yeah. Which I wouldn’t have thought of as a reason for trouser malfunctions, with pretty much the opposite fit issue here, until he mentioned it. *wry smile*

But, they make clothes for this. It’s one hell of a note when even basic cargo/outdoors type pants (which he started wearing largely for the more relaxed cuts) have gotten slimmer enough cut that this has even turned into a problem.

What I’ve seen so far aimed at athletes have mostly not been much if any more expensive than he’s been paying at Orvis for pants that last maybe a couple of months before the seat goes. And less than that after a repair. (He’s been fixing them a lot, which is only a stopgap measure besides aggravating. Only works so many times, too, without resorting to big ugly patches.)

Not to mention these newest Horrible Trousers from Haglöfs, which don’t actually have prices listed on their site but couldn’t have been cheap for that appalling fit. No idea about durability yet, but jfc those are bad enough already.

Even if the specialist fit ones were twice the price, it would be totally worth it though. Here’s hoping I can find some that do work better. And that he won’t mind the intrusion that much, considering the trouble he’s been having finding suitable ones on his own.

Both of the pairs of shorts that came earlier do have reasonable front pockets. But, it’s one hell of a note when “functional pockets” actually gets listed as a big selling point.

Some fairly basic shorts that I ordered showed up today, and they actually seem to fit!

I may not like trying on clothes to an extreme degree, but buying them without even being able to hold them up and eyeball the size makes me nervous enough that I usually just avoid it.

But, at least 90% of my shorts by now fall into at least one one of several categories: starting to literally fall apart, way too big, and/or “I know that has to be somewhere in this house, wtf?!”. (Probably also too big and maybe worn out too, but yeah.)

Getting out to try to buy more has been complicated, so I finally did go ahead and order some. With an elastic waist, because jfc I don’t trust sizing charts for pants in particular with a trickier fit. Especially in women’s sizes, with the lack of consistency and a build nobody is designing for.

(If the waist fits, will tons of fabric be billowing around my nonexistent ass? Less of a problem than when I needed bigger sizes, but still. That is rarely a good look 😒 I would just buy men’s sizes, but it’s pretty much all hotter knee shorts available aimed at men.)

I ended up picking a place where I’ve had decent luck in their brick and mortar stores, with fairly consistent sizing. Plus a location not far away that worst case I could probably return the stuff to if it didn’t work, without having to ship it back to them. With my executive function and everything else, that usually just doesn’t happen.

But, that worked out well enough that I’m more inclined to order from them again! It can get really frustrating when you’re staying low enough on spoons to have trouble buying clothes in person. After several years of that intensifying, the clothing situation is not great.

Glad to at least get a couple of test pairs of functioning shorts that don’t look too bad, and I had probably better just cave and do more online clothes shopping. Even though I haven’t been getting out much lately, I still don’t like feeling like a ragamuffin. Not necessarily great for the old mental health.