4chan raiders decided to fracture the tumblr queer community by making up an imaginary gender for child molesters, “clovergender.”
Because people on this website are godforsaken, they bought into that, and believed quite genuinely that there was a secret, massive conspiracy of child molesters on this website seeking to rape various underage users.
In the context of this conspiracy nonsense, antisexual radical feminists stepped in to advance their own goals, by suggesting that anyone who engages in certain forms of kink or reads certain types of fiction is one of these child-rapists-in-waiting.
Simultaneous to this development, the popularization of “stimboards” as an evolution of moodboards/aesthetic boards and “so satisfying” gifs occurred.
Stimboards were highly popular with two major groups (often overlapping): fandoms, and tumblr’s LGBTQIAPN+ population.
Because those were the two groups that were also targetted by the antisexual radical feminists and by 4chan’s nonsense, stimboard makers were convinced that their art would be used to groom and rape children unless they “made sure” that it “couldn’t be” by putting up those banners.
However, because radical feminists had convinced these artists that the “real” child molesters were adults engaging in consensual relationships and/or “shippers,” the “preventative banners” mostly targetted those groups.
The irony that these people genuinely believe that the only thing between a rapist and their victim is a 15x500px banner is hilarious and deeply, deeply depressing.
oh, is THAT what that was? i was so confused by the whole “x don’t interact” thing
To be totally, 100% fair there are some people who do the “kinksters don’t interact” thing because DD/LG folks might reblog moodboards and tag them with things like “daddy’s little slut” or “how cummies feel” or whatever and I do get people who want to keep tags like “pink” “princess” and “kitten” free of kink gifs.
So, while I understand and abide by people not wanting kink put on their posts, that can be resolved by saying things like, “ask to tag,” or “this post is sfw.”
It’s also worth remembering that the majority of kink blogs aren’t going to be tits deep in stimboards, they’ll be posting their own content and sharing between themselves.
It’s a very rare problem, and the reaction has not been to block perpetrators or request boundaries be respected.
Instead it has been feeding into this notion that all fandoms and queer spaces are positively crawling with child molesters, which is shitty for a number of reasons, as well as claiming that autistic people (the nominal target audience of stim boards) can never be involved in kink or shipping, or rather, that being involved in either is proof that you’re lying about being autistic.
In effect, autistic people have been declared acceptable casualties in a fight against an enemy that does not exist.
Which wouldn’t be okay even if the phantom horror were real, but since it’s entirely fictional, it’s basically just an enormous fuck you to any autistic who isn’t “innocent” or “pure” enough.
As for keeping tags clear: safe mode.
Blogs that include explicit sexuality are Nate nsfw. If you don’t want to see NSFW content, out on safe mode. If you’re underage, you can’t even turn safe mode off without lying.
On a semi-unrelated note, as much as 4chan is often found at the head of such disasters, I can’t find myself feeling resentment toward it: instead the mass of people who blindly believe anything they read and jump from one troll to the other seemingly unaware of being used as volleyball…oh, those I can get behind being pissed off at.
Like. Everyone knows 4chan is terrible, and suddenly there’s this ridiculous “gender for child molesters” bullshit (and if that convinced you for even a hot second wow you really fucking hate trans people) and it LITERALLY USED 4CHAN GRAPHICS, and y’all still drank the kool-aid.
I’d say I’m disappointed, but this is exactly what I’ve come to expect from this hellsite.
Hot take: kink is often literally just emotional and sexual stimming, special interest hyperfocus, and/or the result of sensory processing differences in how people experience sexuality.
Autistic self-hate/internalized ableism therefore likely plays a huge role in the social popularity of extreme, performative anti-kink sentiment in this community and overlapping communities.
Some autistic folks internalize the messages telling us we’re creeps for existing socially with other people (pervasively, but especially around sexuality), and wind up in a pit of puritanical scrupulosity trying desperately to pretend that the things that make us tick aren’t important in our sexual lives.
We would fall for this shit less often if we weren’t pervasively culturally gaslighted about our worth as people.
Agree.
I also feel, as a physically disabled person, that anti-kink is ableist against people with unusual bodies as well. I’ve known a lot of people who have been interested in impact play/painplay because, say, nervous system issues mean they can’t feel or can only partially feel “standard” sexual stimulation.
Telling those people they are disrespecting themselves by, like, getting their backs whipped instead just makes me go ??? WHAT WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS YOU ARE NOSY MEAN AND DUMB
As someone both autistic and with physical nerve damage in a few places due to both injuries and genetic structural issues… yeah, don’t assume everyone experiences the same stimulus the same way.
Nerve damage comes in different flavors. There’s the “everything hurts” kind, the “can’t feel much in general” kind, the “randomly itchy or tingly” kind and also the “certain kinds of touches tickle or itch or sting when they ‘shouldn’t’ but other kinds are extra nice” (and that’s just for sensory-nerve damage; motor-nerve damage gives its own weirdnesses, like “sudden cramping for no reason” or “one very specific muscle out of this whole area doesn’t work right” – and on that last one, you don’t realize how much some of the weird tiny muscles that you might not even know you have are essential for normal functioning until that weird tiny muscle stops working). It depends on which specific nerves are damaged and in what way. There may be more kinds than I’ve described but I’ve personally experienced ALL those things as a direct result of physically damaged nerves.
And then there are differences in sensory processing. I have synesthesia and other sensory-processing differences. I perceive sounds as having colors and textures and as producing physical sensations in my body, among other overlaps of sensory input -> perceptions not generally associated with that specific input. This doesn’t impair my ability to determine reality, it’s not hallucinatory. You won’t make me believe I’m physically seeing a red square that’s suddenly appeared in front of me if you play a sound that translates as a red square on my visual overlap, I’ll be aware that the red square is the sound and not something that physically exists in my visual field. But it does mean that some sensory inputs are more or less pleasant to me because of how they translate across other senses than the one originally stimulated. The smell of sulfur is a rather lovely dark purple shade, so I’m less averse to smelling sulfur (it still stinks but the color’s pretty nice so it’s overall kinda ok). Fluorescent red is the color of the pain of a headache, so I’m not a big fan of looking at actual fluorescent red thanks to associative aversion, even though it doesn’t actually cause me pain to look at (the sensory translation is one-way).
It’s fair to not want sexual stuff added on to your stimboard posts. But the fact that some people find some “stim” stuff sexually stimulating doesn’t automatically make them bad people.
Jose Nunez, a sheriff’s deputy, is being held on a felony charge of “super aggravated sexual assault” for violating a 4-year-old girl, who is related to him. Authorities said he threatened the child’s mother, an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala, with deportation if she reported him.
At a news conference on Monday, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said Nunez, 47, a detention officer with the Bexar County Sheriff’s Office in South Texas, was off-duty when he was arrested on Sunday after the mother took her daughter to a local fire station for help.
“The details of the case are, quite frankly, heartbreaking, disturbing, disgusting and infuriating all at the same time,” Salazar said.
Intersex people are born with chromosomal, hormonal, gonadal, or
genital variations that differ from social expectations of what male and
female bodies should be like. Even as we begin or continue to challenge
binary understandings of gender and sexuality in the anti-violence
movements, many of us have not stopped to question the assumption that
there are only two biological sexes – and anything else is not “normal”
or acceptable. Social discomfort with this aspect of human diversity has
resulted in discrimination and marginalization of intersex people,
including medically unnecessary surgeries that they have not consented
to.
While there has been a shift away from seeing intersex conditions as a
problem to be dealt with medically (a practice that became popular in
the medical community in the 1960s), these types of unwanted
“corrective” surgeries do continue today. Adults who have experienced
these medically unnecessary surgeries, also known as Intersex Genital
Mutilation (IGM), experience trauma common to many adult survivors of
child sexual abuse. The impact of such surgery includes shame,
stigmatization, physical harm, and emotional distress. Anti-violence
advocates should be prepared to provide trauma-informed care to those
who have experienced trauma surrounding IGM.
As you reflect during Pride Month
on your efforts to reach out to LGBTQ+ communities, consider ways you
can increase your capacity to meet the needs of intersex individuals who
may be dealing with trauma related to IGM.
There is great diversity of experience in the intersex community, and
diverse ways intersex individuals think about community, activism,
needs, and goals. There is also a wide-ranging response to whether or not intersex people should inherently be considered part of the LGBTQ+ communities. One reason
that someone might take the position that intersex identity is not part
of LGBTQ+ communities may be the opinion that LGBTQ+ movements have, at
least in recent history, been primarily concerned with relationship
recognition and concerns around identity, and not as much with bodily
autonomy.
On the other hand, including intersex as part of LGBTQ+ communities
can lead to more visibility of intersex experiences, and can address a
common root cause of discrimination: harmful adherence to the gender
binary and related gender norms. Writer and intersex advocate Hida
Viloria makes this case in the article The Forgotten Vowel: How Intersex Liberation Benefits the Entire LGBTQIA Community:
“When we recognize the rights of intersex people to have their
identities recognized, we dismantle the very foundation of the binary
sex and gender system which has harmed LGBTQIA people for centuries.”
Note the distinction between being transgender and being intersex. Being transgender
has to do with having an internal understanding of one’s gender that is
different than what was assigned at birth. This assignment typically
has to do with the external anatomy – babies with a vagina are assigned
female at birth and babies with a penis are assigned male. A transgender
person has a gender identity that is different from that assignment, whether female, male, non-binary, or other genders.
Intersex people of color are disproportionately impacted by physical,
psychological, and medical violence. Historically, people of color have
faced unspeakable atrocities including exploitation at the hands of the
medical industrial complex. Activist Sean Saifa Wall reflected on these
intersecting identities in a recent interview with NBC:
“I draw a very distinct parallel between how the medical
community has inflicted violence on intersex people by violating their
bodily integrity, and how state violence violates the bodily integrity
of Black people… My desire for intersex liberation is totally [entwined]
with Black liberation. They cannot be teased apart.” (2016)
Additionally, intersex activists and survivors of color are marginalized within the intersex movement itself
– facing underrepresentation in leadership roles, lack of visibility
and voice in public spaces, and limited opportunity to engage with other
intersex people of color.
To explore what intersex advocates are saying about intersex genital mutilation, check out this video from Teen Vogue in
which three intersex advocates address what some forms of IGM
specifically entail, and how they’re unnecessary and nonconsensual.
One of the advocates in the video, Pigeon Pagonis, discloses the
experience of having the clitoris removed, and later having a
vaginoplasty at age 11. Pagonis makes the connection that one of the
underlying reasons for these operations was to make the vagina “more
accommodating to my future husband’s penis” – underscoring one example
of how harmful societal assumptions about what male and female bodies
should look like (and how sex should happen between men and women) forms
justification for these invasive medical surgeries. One of the other
advocates in this video, Hanne Gaby Odiele, helps make the connection to
trauma, by claiming, “Those surgeries need to stop because they bring
so much more complications and traumas.”
A
2017 report from Human Rights Watch called “I Want to Be Like Nature
Made Me”: Medically Unnecessary Surgeries on Intersex Children in the US
contains information on the history and impact of IGM, including
insight into the trauma mentioned by Odiele in the video. In one
testimonial from an adult survivor of intersex genital mutilation, Ruth,
age 60, shares: “I developed PTSD and dissociative states to protect
myself while they treated me like a lab rat, semi-annually putting me in
a room full of white-coated male doctors, some of whom took photos of
me when I was naked.” The report goes on to illustrate forms of
psychological harm and emotional distress that adult survivors of
intersex genital mutilation may experience.
When working with a survivor of intersex genital mutilation, consider
that control was taken away from the survivor in the nonconsensual,
medically unnecessary surgery. These surgeries may receive legitimacy
simply because they take place in a medical context, which we tend to
view as being associated with consent and authority. But the root of the
perceived “need” for this surgery is embedded in social standards about
what male and female bodies should look like, not medical need. We need
to move away from the notion that there might be an underlying medical
justification for this abusive touching (Tosh, 2013).
Shifting Our Culture
Working to end false binaries of sex, gender, and sexuality can be an
important first step in preventing IGM and many forms of violence.
Developing an understanding of intersex peoples’ experiences by reading
intersex history and listening to intersex people share their stories
when offered can deepen your understanding of who is part of our
communities and how we can provide trauma-informed care to everyone who
needs our services. A first step can be to become familiar with intersex
organizations like Intersex Society of North America, interACT, and Intersex Campaign for Equality.
Another can be to educate colleagues on trauma related to IGM, and to
make efforts to directly engage the community in which your agency wants
to provide welcoming and relevant services to intersex people. Shifting
our culture to end the shame, secrecy, exploitation, and abuse of
intersex people will require broad level systemic change driven by all
of us.
What can you do to positively impact the lives of intersex survivors in your community?
Tosh, J. (2013). The (In)visibility of Childhood Sexual Abuse:
Psychiatric Theorizing of Transgenderism and Intersexuality.
Intersectionalities: A Global Journal of Social Work Analysis, Research,
Polity, and Practice. Retrieved from http://journals.library.mun.ca/ojs/index.php/IJ/article/view/739/743
Adult, consenting and responsible sex workers deserve and should have safe spaces to advertise and work. A lot of them are in dangerous and abusive situations. They need safety, they need support. They are workers. They are human beings.
These types of sex workers are NOT the same as unconsenting adults caught in sex trafficking, are NOT the same as women or children being coerced into illegal sex work, are NOT synonymous with letting violent and abusive pimps/johns do whatever they want.
These are ABUSE. These are VIOLENCE and disregard to humanity. And there are many variables that may result in these situations AND NOT HAVING A SAFE SPACE TO WORK AND ADVERTISE LEGAL, CONSENTING AND RESPONSIBLE SEX WORK IS ONE OF THEM.
Just like I said about consenting adult and responsible sex workers, children deserve and SHOULD have safe spaces to just exist and develop their own minds and bodies, with the support of adults they can trust with their safety and well-being. And no, that is not to support child sex trafficking. It is to STOP that.
Child sex trafficking happens because adult humans are rotten beings who will abuse their own species for personal gain. We should strive to live in a society with educated adults that understand that children and minors cannot consent to any sexual act. And we should be even harder with the punishment for these crimes. Science and psychology and philosophy prove time and time again, and yet adults don’t make the effort to grasp the gravity of sexual crimes against children.
So, no, my good self absorbed human being: supporting safe spaces for responsible, consenting adults’ sex work is not downplaying any other problematic situations caused by illegal sex work or human sex trafficking. If anything, it would be one of the (several) first steps to solving these problems.
When I first saw that poster I was actually going to say that they couldn’t have picked better looking examples of trump supporter stereotypes, looking like two mentally compromised and morally dubious people trying to hide behind the veneer of American Yuppieism
UM I DID NOT KNOW THIS AND I JUST READ ABOUT IT ONLINE AND THAT IS FUCKING DISGUSTING WHAT THE HELL
I’ve seen this post already, someone said it wasn’t true, so like, idk someone is lying and it’s really stupid to get this upset over a post on Tumblr without even making sure if it’s real or not BTW
Soon-Yi Previn was adopted (from South Korea) by Mia Farrow and her then husband Andre Previn.
Mia Farrow ended her marriage to Andre Previn and began a long term relationship with Woody Allen in 1979. Soon-Yi would have been ~9 years old.
Woody Allen adopted two other of Farrow’s children, Dylan and Moses.
I think it would be fair to say she was effectively his step-daughter.
Their relationship is meant to have started in 1991 (so 20-21 years of age) while Allen was still in a relationship with Mia Farrow. Discovery of the relationship with her daughter is why Farrow ended the relationship with Allen.
So no. They are not lying. The statement that he married his daughter may not be entirely accurate, but it is also very close to the truth of the matter.
That this happened is about as well kept a secret as Polanski…
Actually, no. It was not kept secret.
It was on the evening news nightly for weeks (a month or more ?? that much I don’t remember), when Mia Farrow and Allen were going through their divorce, at least in the NYC metro area (where I was living at the time).
I’m not saying that makes it okay; in fact, it may be worse that people knew what was happening, and basically shrugged it off after the news stopped being “juicy” (and that the judge dismissed Farrow’s allegations of sexual abuse of his other children).
But spreading the idea that there’s vast conspiracy of silence doesn’t help change the things that need to be changed.
I think that was meant as a sarcastic observation.
If the recent Woody Allen backlash has taught us anything, it’s that filmmakers are often not held accountable when non-famous people accuse them of horrors, until celebrities are also willing to condemn them publicly. Because most of Polanski’s biggest successes have occurred while he was already a fugitive, it is harder, however, for those celebrities to come forward with the same kinds of apologies we have seen from those who recently worked with Woody Allen. Put bluntly: everybody knew and nobody cared.
(Also, both Woody Allen and Harvey Weinstein publicly supported Polanski. What a surprise.)
That’s referring to quite a variety of creepy behavior out of Woody Allen over the years, but still. It wasn’t just within the industry. Both got rather a lot of public attention, while facing very few actual consequences.
UM I DID NOT KNOW THIS AND I JUST READ ABOUT IT ONLINE AND THAT IS FUCKING DISGUSTING WHAT THE HELL
I’ve seen this post already, someone said it wasn’t true, so like, idk someone is lying and it’s really stupid to get this upset over a post on Tumblr without even making sure if it’s real or not BTW
Soon-Yi Previn was adopted (from South Korea) by Mia Farrow and her then husband Andre Previn.
Mia Farrow ended her marriage to Andre Previn and began a long term relationship with Woody Allen in 1979. Soon-Yi would have been ~9 years old.
Woody Allen adopted two other of Farrow’s children, Dylan and Moses.
I think it would be fair to say she was effectively his step-daughter.
Their relationship is meant to have started in 1991 (so 20-21 years of age) while Allen was still in a relationship with Mia Farrow. Discovery of the relationship with her daughter is why Farrow ended the relationship with Allen.
So no. They are not lying. The statement that he married his daughter may not be entirely accurate, but it is also very close to the truth of the matter.
That this happened is about as well kept a secret as Polanski…
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