Tag: fatphobia

bittersnurr:

technohumanlation:

emmersdrawberry:

bigbardafree:

the thing about being someone who’s never catcalled is that you start to wonder why like is it because im ugly???

and then you realize that youre judging your worth by whether or not you are objectifiable to a man and thats so fucked up like honestly its so fucked up 

but the worst part about the patriarchy is that it still sits at the back of your mind regardless like “nobody thinks youre pretty because they dont see you as a sex object” like somehow thats a desirable thing and it fucks me up

You’re either public property or completely invisible.

It sucks I related to this and it was finally put into words

Also I feel like it should be pointed out, it’s often not *just* the lack of sexual harassment. It often is combined with women gossiping about how they think you are ugly too. This is important because it’s not just about men, it’s about not being acceptable to women or being the designated “ugly friend”.

If you are a woman or dumped in that label as “close enough” your human worth is directly tied to your appearance. It’s not just men enforcing that. It’s not something you can avoid by sticking to women’s spaces and only being around girls.

Idk I have just had too many woman act like it’s disgusting I have self esteem problems from this but like, it’s not just guys lack of attention, it’s the fact women find me a fun target to beat up on to raise their own self esteem. But people will brush this stuff off as internalized sexism.

We have a major problem in general I think with this expectation this shit shouldn’t bother you because it is stupid. Like you shouldn’t worry about aging, you shouldn’t worry about fitting molds, you shouldn’t worry about how conventionally attractive you are… but rejecting that shit doesn’t make it go away. Society will still enforce it on you and if your self esteem isn’t good enough it will rip you apart. People shouldn’t have to feel guilty for caring about this shit when it has a DIRECT RELATION to how much of a person most people see you as.

One other thing I want to point out: how commonly sexual harassment is treated as only consisting of the “what, you can’t take a compliment?” catcalling variety.

And not so much the “you are such a disgusting freak, and we must loudly go into great detail about this at every opportunity” variations which tend to get thrown at marginalized people more. (Disability, sexuality, gender, you name it.) Which often seems to be far more gender neutral in terms of both targets and who is doing the harassing/assaulting.

Some pretty good discussion of a couple of people’s experiences with this, specifically influenced by disability:

Undesirable: Toxic Romantic Dreams, Disability, Sexuality and Relationships

And prompted by that post: Undesireability and sexual mockery (from autism meetups to high schools)

Instead, I got a series of messages that I was in fact a sexual being, but anything to do with my sexuality was gross and an object of mockery, or, to be used only for really fucked up fetishes for which I could become a fantasy object (but that was much later).

That type of sustained harassment can be brutal, and mess up your head longer term in some slightly different ways. Especially when it is coming from such a variety of your “peers”.

bodypositivejourney:

Friendly reminder that kids need access to good school lunches because it will provide them with needed nutrients and will help their performance and overall health, NOT because it will “prevent obesity”. We are allowed to be angry about Trump rolling back school lunch regulations without being fatphobic and without body shaming.

Healthy eating should be for actual health, not for trying to attain a single body type.

New Tumblr Algorithm Flagging Images of Fully Dressed Fat People as Nudes

thisisthinprivilege:

Tumblr’s new algorithm is flagging non-pornographic blogs that feature images of fully clothed fat people. As a result, great fat-positive blogs that in no way break the new Tumblr rules as stated (not that I agree with those rules) are being forced off the
platform.

Let this be a sober reminder that fat discrimination and fatphobia can present itself in all things, including
machine learning algorithms. Remember, algorithms are
only as unbiased as their developers, and are only as smart as their training set. Suppose you want to train an algorithm to detect porn, so you feed it a lot of porn images. However, you want to exclude nude art and scantily clad people, so you feed it the most popular sets of images of nude art and scantily clad people. These images are more likely to be of thin people, since fat people are often excluded by virtue of their fatness from being so-called influencers and fat people are largely excluded in art (brief chubby art periods notwithstanding).

So now, you have an algorithm that flags any bulging bit of skin it perceives as “too much” (i.e., more than would be exposed on a non-nude picture of a thin Instamodel-type) as porn. Fully clothed fat people are then flagged for their arms, cleavage, tummy in a crop top, legs in short shorts, basically any way of dressing short of draping oneself in a tent.

The
biases and blind spots of the developers of any given algorithm will be
present in how the algorithm operates. The culture promotes and celebrates thin people and does its best to hide fat people. So the algorithm will most likely misflag images of fat people, as it is most likely to have been trained on over-represented thin bodies.

@fatpeopledoingthings (which is no longer automatically linkable, I had to do it manually) was misflagged by the algorithm, despite the fact that the fat women in the images it publishes are fully clothed. Its description is, simply, “Pictures of fat girls doing things…because fat girls do things, just like everybody else!” Pictures of fat people doing things are now being treated like porn by Tumblr’s algorithm.

@foodiefeedee was also misflagged, but their blog was restored and they were issued an apology, of sorts.

What can we do about Tumblr’s attempt to remove images of fat people from the site?

1. If you have a blog with mostly images of fat people and it is being
flagged for content that is in no way pornographic, please post about it
and tag your post #fatphobia. If you can’t participate in the tags
anymore, please submit a post about your experience to @thisisthinprivilege (we are also not automatically linkable!). 

2. Comment on blogs and news articles about Tumblr’s new policy letting people know it is mis-flagging fully clothed pictures of fat people.

3. Use social media to talk about this. Be loud. Tumblr’s new policies meant to maximize ad-money are discriminating against a whole category of people.

4. Reblog other posts pointing out how Tumblr’s algorithm is flagging LGBT content, too.

Let’s fight this. And, if we have to go, let’s not go quietly.

-ArteToLife

Forget aesthetics for a sec. you’re very beautiful but working out and losing some weight is for your health. Mentally and physically. You don’t wanna end up diabetic or something. It will make your life way harder and way more expensive. Stop associating it with looking good. It’s about staying alive and being able to take care of yourself.

fuckrashida:

keepthatenergy:

if you not paying for my groceries or my rent so i don’t have to work as hard so i could go work out do not come in my inbox with this bullshit. go finger wag some skinny bitch with heart disease or a high cholesterol. im good.

cash.me/sheisresting/999

paypal.me/sleepisforlovers/999

venmo: @ sleepisforlovers

I literally have the worst eating habits and never drink water and no one I mean not a single medical  professional has EVER encouraged me to lose weight they only say that to people who are bigger and gloss over all of there other health concerns and strictly focus on losing weight and weirdo’s like you need to stop repeating the same fatphobic bullshit Doctors say to any woman especially any black woman who isn’t a fucking rail. You don’t know shit about shit and you especially don’t know not a goddamn thing about Taylor’s health. Please do us all a favor and go choke on your sweaty yoga pants! Thank u!

ALSO GIVE HER SOME MONEY 

cash.me/sheisresting/999

paypal.me/sleepisforlovers/999

venmo: @ sleepisforlovers

reggyjester:

skeletalroses:

So this is a totally useless rant, but as a skinny girl, I’m getting extra, extra tired of fat-shaming.

I work for a corsetier at a Renaissance Faire. We sell corsets. Not flimsy bullshit costume corsets; like real, durable, waist-training corsets. Today a woman came in with her boyfriend, so I helped her pick out a corset and try it on. While her boyfriend—who was decidedly enthused about the whole corset thing—sat watching me lace her in, he told me, grinning, “Of all the good jobs at the Renaissance Faire, I think you have the best.”

I shrugged in agreement. “I touch butts and reach down cleavage all day; I mean…” Because we like to be a bit rakish at the Faire, and, y’know, it’s true. Tying people into corsets pretty much invariably requires getting handsy.

The couple laughed at that, and the boyfriend said, “That’s the job I would want!” But then he chuckled again and said, offhand, “Or maybe not; while we were looking at the racks, there were some pretty big sizes on there!”

Our sizes are all done in inches, and the biggest we make is a 46. And you’d better believe our large sizes sell. For a second I wasn’t sure what to say to the guy’s comment, but I answered him casually. “We get a lot of beautiful big ladies in here.” Because we do. “We make corsets for real women, not Barbie dolls,” I added. Wasn’t trying to be smart, just kind of tossed it out there because that’s the line we like to use when people ask about larger sizes, and because, again, we do.

The boyfriend went quiet at that; I didn’t think anything of it, I just kept on lacing. A moment later, he said, a little awkwardly (but sincerely enough), “Didn’t mean to be offensive.”

I quickly smiled and brushed it off, said he wasn’t, said I was just saying. (Don’t want to make the customers uncomfortable, you know?) And that was the end of it. His comment had rubbed me the wrong way, but it wasn’t a big deal. Now, I wear a 20-inch corset. I’m a few cup sizes short of being one of the Barbie dolls. Like his girlfriend, I’m one of the “hot chicks”; he doesn’t have to worry about offending me by implying that I wouldn’t be fun to poke and pull at.

Honestly though, of all the people I fit sexy technically-undergarments to in a day, fat girls are maybe my favorite people to lace up. Because they are just so damn happy that we have stuff that fits them. They are so damn happy that the corsets we make in their sizes are all the same pretty, shiny colors and cool flower/dragon/skull/etc. prints that the smaller corsets are, not ugly beige and boring “granny” colors. They are so goddamn happy that at least one (of several on the grounds) corset shop carries things that they can wear, that they actually want to wear, and that they look fucking awesome in. This is only my second season working, and we’ve fit 60+ inch waists and double-K busts. The only people we’ve ever had to tell sorry, we don’t have anything that fits them, are twelve-year-old kids.

It’s half-wonderful, half-heartbreaking how excited those women get. Women who say with sad smiles, when we ask if they want to get fitted, “Oh, no, you don’t have anything that fits me,” and then are stunned when we’re 300% confident that yes we do, and we have options. Women who can’t stop smiling and looking at themselves in the mirror after we’ve got them laced in.

I had a lady last week whose waist I measured (cinching the tape tight, as per procedure) at 41 inches—honestly not all that big. So she picked out a 41-inch corset to try on. I could tell halfway through getting her laced that it was going to be a bit big for her, so I mentioned it and said she might do better to try a smaller size. She started crying on the spot. She was so overwhelmed; she couldn’t believe someone had just told her that a 41 was too big. She told me about how hard clothes shopping was for her, how her mother would tell her she needed an XXXL instead of an XXL, how she had recently lost weight but still couldn’t wear certain colors because they didn’t fit or she wasn’t confident enough.

She did end up getting her corset, and after I checked her out she asked if she could give me a hug, so we ended up standing there hugging each other for a minute. While we did, I told her, “Do not ever let anyone tell you any bullshit. You are gorgeous.” She said, “I have a new boyfriend and he keeps telling me that.” I told her he was right, and to just keep telling herself she’s gorgeous; it was okay if she didn’t always believe it, but to keep telling herself anyway. (That’s how I talked myself through shit when I had bad anxiety.)

We all know fat-shaming is bad. The stupidity, fatphobia, and misogyny of it has pissed me off since I first became aware of it. But working with clothing, especially as figure-hugging and precise as corsets, has given me a new perspective on it—how much it affects people and just how shitty it is. Like, what does it say that I had a grown, only average-big woman crying into my shoulder because she was so overjoyed not to be the uppermost extremity of what a manufacturer can clothe?

My job rocks and it’s really rewarding, but sometimes it highlights some of the ugliest shit about society. I’m so glad I work at a shop that’s not bullshit about body types and operates with more people in mind than just scrawny white chicks like me. The fat women I work with are a ton of fun to lace up, and they’re so much more than their size—they’re cool, they’re smart, they’re funny, they’re sweet, they’re great to talk to, and yes, they’re hot. I’m so damn done with them getting short-changed and shamed by petty fucks who refuse to make them nice clothes, who refuse to even try to work for them, who refuse to consider them pretty. This whole rant was useless and won’t get read, but I had to vent because it’s been driving me nuts.

So actually, screw you, random dude. Fat girls are the highlight of my job.

This made my eyes water

Dissecting a fat hating meme

optometrictzedek:

ok2befat:

davidrycan:

ok2befat:

inclusionist-mungdaal:

lol-im-not-very-creative:

lol-im-not-very-creative:

svcxb:

fullyarticulatedgoldskeleton:

ok2befat:

icanquitanytime:

ok2befat:

joebelladonna:

ok2befat:

CN for fat hate & a photos of human organs.

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So, you may have seen the below- some of the text is chopped off- it also includes language about fat “strangling” organs (pretty sure, not a thing).

Where does this photo of a heart come from? It’s from a slide show about heart transplants, photo number 9.

The photo’s original text is below.

This is a healthy heart, being transplanted INTO a person who needs a heart transplant. 

It is NOT a heart taken out of a dead fat person who died of Fat Heart, which is not a thing.

Fat haters lie. They do it all the time. 

Never forget that.

This is the stupidest thing I’ve read in a long time.

Sure, “fat heart” isnt a thing but being obese does cause heart problems as the heart has to grow in order to pump more blood around the body which causes it to strain and struggle just for doing its job.

This is a real picture of a normal heart next to the heart of an obese person’s.

Why do people constantly want to encourage being obese despite the many health risks it carries?

Fat haters lie.

“Martti Tenhu, chief medical examiner in Helsinki, Finland, illustrates the differences between a normal human heart and one enlarged by alcoholism and high blood pressure. Covered in scar tissue, the enlarged organ is nearly twice the normal size. Such alcoholic cardiomyopathy weakens the heart so that it is unable to pump blood adequately.”

“Alcoholic cardiomyopathy is a disease in which the chronic long-term abuse of alcohol… leads to heart failure.”

The original photo is from the National Geographic and does not mention the size of the person who had the enlarged heart. 

Fat haters lie. 

For a group of people who yell about science all the time, they sure do love clipping off the actual text included with the original photos and replacing it with dishonest garbage.

If you take the time to double check their sources, this is basically how it always goes.  

They will say anything to advance their bigotry. Don’t listen to them.

It’s ok to be fat! 

Fatty Liver disease though really can be caused by being overweight.

Did you just pick a disease with the word “fat” in it? B/c that’s what it looks like you did. 

According to Wikipedia, this is another disease that is caused by alcoholism among other things.

And according to this article by the NIH, hepatic steatosis is a disease that thin people get too.

So once again, we see that fat haters are liars. 

Additionally- just randomly picking out a disease that has the word fat in the title does not in any way refute the fact that your buddies are liars. 

That they remove the true text from photos and lie about what those photos actually show.

I love how THREE PEOPLE IN A ROW tried to lie or just picked something random to support their fatphobia. 

i’m about to die of Fat Heart

Try to defend yourself against any of these I fucking dare you my grandma has diabetes high blood pressure and sleep apnea, ya know what else my grandma is? overweight. None of these diseases run in the family and she didn’t have them in high school when she wasn’t overweight. So try me try to say I’m lying about this shit I dare you

It’s not fat phobia it’s the truth of your disgusting life choices

There’s a lot to pick apart here: 

1. You posted a totally unsourced, seemingly random image as your main arguing point. Cherrypicking much? Are fat people simply more likely to have them or are they DYING EN MASS because of this shit? Becaause there’s a big difference between “more likely” and “a self-inflicted disease that kills everyone.”

2. In what way does this disprove the point of the op-that the anti-fat meme was a lie and most of the responses were as well?

3. Not only is the grandma story entirely anecdotal, but you base it entirely on the idea that she magically gained all of these diseases because she became fat. You can’t even say like, the doctor said that, you just assume that correlation exists. And yeah, umm…most people tend to not have the same diseases when they’re in highschool as when they’re old LMAO.

4. Even if you were entirely right about all of hat-did you seriously just mock your own grandmother about her illnesses for the sake of an arguing point? 

It always makes me sad when I see people talking like this about their own loved ones, like– how do you think your fat family and friends would feel if they knew you were being cruel about their size to “win” an argument with internet strangers?

Fat people are so dehumanized that this is how the people who supposedly love us, talk about us. 

This happens all the time, and it’s really really sad. 

How to lose an argument: pull a random picture off Google Image Search and use it against a person who has literally just demonstrated the ability to use Reverse Image Search.

This made me laugh. 😀 

Hi, actual doctor here (well, eye doctor, but I treat diabetics regularly and did an entire report on obesity and diabetes to get my doctorate so I sort of know what I’m talking about maybe more than most of you), reminding you that correlation does not imply causation and we know that weight/obesity CORRELATE to hypertension, diabetes, and other diseases but there is no proof of cause. For every peer-reviewed study that says one causes the other, another says it doesn’t. I know because I’ve looked. I’d also like to remind people that, except in men over 55yo with known heart disease/heart risk factors, lowering cholesterol with statin medication does not lower all-cause mortality even though it lowers cholesterol numbers. Why do I bring this up? Because doctors will still put anyone on statin meds even if they don’t benefit from them statistically life-wise because the labs get better because the labs are more easily measurable and make us feel useful and make patients feel like they’re getting better care and doctors are taught in school this is the right thing to do. And doctors are taught the same thing about weight. Diabetic? High blood pressure? Anything wrong at all with the person in any way? Are they overweight? Make them lose weight! Might not help but it won’t hurt right? At least it’s a measurable thing that we know *correlates* to health outcomes and we can control it easier than we can control those other outcomes so let’s control it! It’s like pressing the “easy” button from Staples instead of doing real work! Never mind that “obese” is a useless classification based on outdated BMI equations that don’t take muscle mass, body shape, activity level, or other health factors into account. Nevermind that, despite that BMI is a useless measure, people who fall into “overweight” BMI tend to be healthier and live longer than those in the “normal” or “underweight” BMI categories. Nevermind that socioeconomic factors also correlate with both obesity and diabetes/hypertension/high cholesterol/stroke risk/increased all cause mortality and yet no one says “hey, I know you’re stressed and living paycheck to paycheck…maybe to help with your high blood pressure you should see a financial counselor at the local community center for some help” or “I know McDonald’s has a dollar menu and is quick and easy, but your blood sugar levels would be better if we could find you some healthier alternatives. Are there any local community gardens in your neighborhood?” We just want an easy solution to a problem and we all want someone to blame, so we all say “you made yourselves sick by making yourselves fat” and ignore the other 1000 things going on in this equation, including, again, the most basic tenant that correlation does not imply causation – and it’s no wonder that obesity and poor health correlate when you consider socioeconomic and stress risk factors.

What all of that wall of text is saying is: y’all literally have no idea what you’re talking about, you’ve clearly never done any more research than typing your biased searches into Google and getting your bias-confirmating answers back, and since doctors are also taught a lot of this bias you probably aren’t going to find better info unless you know how to read a peer-reviewed journal. And since, as it was already pointed out, y’all can’t figure out not to lie to someone who was clearly on a “I’m not buying your lying bullshit” streak already, I don’t think y’all can figure out peer reviewed science articles either.

blueflamefairy:

I replied to someone’s comment on my favourite fat youtuber’s video about fatphobia…that was just ignoring everything she said and was telling her she was going to die soon for sure. I told her what websites and studies to check out, that what she has been lead to believe about weight isn’t the whole truth, I gave her a list of books to check out. I even gave her personal anecdotes to counter her personal anecdotes. I even tried to get at her nonexistent empathy and tell her how what she said is NOT ever helpful, it is only hurtful, no matter your intention. This fucking asshole had the audacity to say that I didn’t respond to any of her points and didn’t show her any statistics or resources. Fatphobes just want to be fatphobes. This is why we have to just block these people. They NEVER want to learn. They just want to tell you how much they care that you are going to DIE.

She saw my first point about how fat people live in the same world you do and she was saying NOTHING new or constructive, and apparently stopped there. She used that to say that same old argument again…since we should know better than it makes it even WORSE and MORE your own fault. They NEED to feel like they are smarter and morally better than you, and you must know it.

I knew I was just wasting my time replying to her, but sometimes you can’t help it. This youtuber I have watched for years was being so honest about her expiriences with fatphobia and this person DARES to say that they are a big fan and then goes on to assert that this woman is wrong and stupid. That this woman who lives in her body doesn’t know her own body. That this woman who lives a happy life with her husband is morally wrong for becoming and staying fat.

Hateful people just want to stay hateful. Willfully ignorant people will always be ignorant. This is why we just learn to say fuck you and move on, you can scream all you want about how we doing back up our arguments (which we do), don’t have the science (which we do), and that we don’t want to listen (which YOU don’t want to do). They scream common sense but don’t realise that “common sense” had been wrong before and will be wrong again. It was common sense that smoking was fine and was so good that it was prescribed to you! It was common sense that homosexuality was a disease! It was common sense that the more sun you get the healthier you are guaranteed to be, so slather in that oil and lie on the beach. It was common sense that women were inferior to and less intelligent than men. It was common sense that black people were genetically inferior, for fucks sake. All of that is now known to be SO FUCKING WRONG. All of that had “science” to back it up. Science is biased and flawed, because the humans ruining the studies are biased and flawed. So common sense is as bullshit an argument as I can think of for pretty much everything you are going to claim about medical media and any judgment of the validity of a group of people.

It’s so pitiful. They call fat people disgusting, but the most disgusting thing in a human is hate. Willful ignorance. Hate without reason.

Every fucking time I give fatphobes a chance they prove EVERY point against them. Every. Single. Fucking. Time.

problematic-hoe:

ohyesididnotjustdothat:

jehovahhthickness:

sassydoctor9:

jehovahhthickness:

problematic-hoe:

afronerdism:

jehovahhthickness:

I had a friend who became bulimic and she was purging so much she was getting sick and having all kinds of complications. When other people found out that’s why she had lost so much weight they said “well…at least she’s lost weight. She looks good” and that was when I realized that no one cares about your health. They just need you to look fuckable

I’m skinny and I’m tryna gain weight and people always look at me crazy when I mention it. It never fails. It’s so odd

I mean … thin folks do suffer from body image issues but I don’t think this particular post was the best place to mention how thin you are (the thinner you are, the better, in this society) and how you struggle to gain weight (when the OP is talking about how fatness is considered so unattractive that, even if you’re sick and close to your deathbed, nobody cares about your health because you’re not fat anymore)

I don’t wanna speak for @problematic-hoe, but I construed their comment as further solidifying the “fatphobia does not equate concerns for health” by conveying the other side. Even if your health is dependent on you gaining weight, people refuse to comprehend it as a crucial health decision because of their innate reflex to assume that it’s okay to be unhealthy as long as you’re not fat.

Yeah that’s what I was getting at… should’ve phrased it better my bad

heavyweightheart:

given the facts that 81% of 10 yr-old girls are afraid of becoming fat and young girls report being more afraid of becoming fat than of getting cancer or experiencing nuclear war, i think we can abandon the idea that public anti-obesity campaigns are actually about promoting health