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I evidently still can’t talk about it much, and am not sure if I even should. But, my own recent unplanned mental health break was also prompted by getting triggered all to hell. In that case, by something someone I trusted about as far as I’m likely to said to me, when I was already close to the edge.

(And they had reason to know that–also that I do have a nasty combo of PTSD and OCD running in certain directions. With a history of that getting weaponized, for pretty much exponential triggering value there.)

No idea if it was at intentionally hurtful at all, and I’m not sure it matters that much in the end. Some different looking results from what someone else has been going through, but it wasn’t good.

And I’m not sure if it was a great idea to come back yet (if at all), with the way this site can be. Really feeling that right now.

Not sure how to wrap this up. Other than that I am very sorry anyone has been needing to deal with that kind of situation. As much as it seems to happen.

I wish I could find one thing I read a while back, with someone talking about the actual history around the Civil War in the North Georgia mountains compared to the number of assholes currently flying the stars and bars under the carefully pushed impression that it really is their “heritage”.

Depressingly similar pattern in my part of Virginia, yeah. The bit that only didn’t get split off to make WV because it already had enough rail infrastructure that Virginia wanted to hold onto.

I still feel like shit about not being around when a friend apparently needed to talk a little while back. Because I was triggered all to hell myself and couldn’t language at the time.

Haven’t heard anything since then, and I’m really hoping they’re OK.

clatterbane:

With the political climate right now, I’m halfway waiting to hear about how Antifa is planning to use these Fake Hurricanes to intern Real Americans in those FEMA camps they kept going on about a few years ago. Now that they’ve figured out November 4th.

(This may well be a common idea in certain circles. I really do not want to know what they are screeching about atm.)

I’m not quite sure if Fake Hurricanes are the work of Al Gore or George Soros. Maybe both. But, Obama and The Clinton Collective are no doubt involved.

With the political climate right now, I’m halfway waiting to hear about how Antifa is planning to use these Fake Hurricanes to intern Real Americans in those FEMA camps they kept going on about a few years ago. Now that they’ve figured out November 4th.

(This may well be a common idea in certain circles. I really do not want to know what they are screeching about atm.)

I’m exhausted after a long day, and about to try for some sleep. And I really can’t write more at the moment about the the bigger context this came up in connection to.

I’m sticking this behind a cut, because it might be disturbing for people who have had similarly bad experiences.

But, a few things occurred to me about the ‘80s-’90s repressed memory therapy fad specifically. Some of it might also be relevant to other psych things which can turn abusive. Especially involving kids and other people with very little power, credibility, or rights are involved. (My personal experience there, yeah.)

I don’t know why I hadn’t thought of it in these terms before, but the big thing that occurred to me tonight? Too much of this looks like exorcism just barely disguised in secular progressive pseudoscientific clothing–but enough for insurance to pay for it.

Any resistance? It’s probably not even coming from the victim at all. Even if it were? Don’t listen to them. Their memories, thoughts, feelings, and perceptions can’t be trusted under the influence of demons. They can’t be trusted to know what their own best interest is, much less act toward that. Intervention is crucial, and ASAP, before their soul is further corrupted or even totally lost to Darkness. Even if they can’t see right now that it’s for their own good, you’re really doing them a favor.

Any signs of increasing distress from your chosen intervention? Likely a good sign that the demons are putting up a struggle. Better keep pressing harder, to weaken them. Again, any protests are not the victim talking, and are best ignored for their own good even if they were.

The situation will look worse before it gets better, but we must all have faith that these demons will be overcome by righteous power. If something happens to the afflicted person? Not enough faith, and/or they weren’t strong and dedicated enough to the fight. It probably would have happened sooner without your help.

I was going to say more, including about dire predictions and getting people who care afraid not to go along or even express many doubts, no matter what happens. But, I’ve pretty much run out of steam for now. Don’t know how good a job I even did of wrapping words around this comparison, but hopefully you get the drift.

Too many people are primed to think in these kinds of terms, without necessarily seeing the ideological connections there. (Very much like the whole Grand Battle Against $DISEASE narrative, yes.)

And it frequently takes disturbingly little to justify denying people’s agency if it can be cast as For Their Own Good, and/or that they’re being influenced by hostile forces.

Most of the ones perpetuating this stuff really do think they’re doing the Right Thing, out of the best motives to help. That doesn’t make it right. It does make it more disturbing and dangerous, in some ways. (And we’re right back around to the self-image of “goodness” malarkey, as it can relate to abuse on a more systemic level…)

I also keep coming back to the fact that if you promote just plain exorcism as a treatment for autism–as one too-relevant example–that (very rightly) will not go over so well outside of some fringes. Most people would likely agree that you should be held accountable for harming children with that wacky blatantly abusive bullshit. And that the parents subjecting their kids to this share some culpability there.

Slap a more socially acceptable (pseudo)scientific mask on the same basic ideas, though, and suddenly it looks less scary to pretty much everyone but the people subjected to that treatment. Very possibly covered by insurance, as I said before.

(Personally, my parents losing their jobs with “good” insurance was what got the worst of the psych abuse stopped. Sucked for dealing with actual medical problems, but I still have to think it was worth it. What prompted that approach? Mostly badly misinterpreted autistic stuff, plus some actual overlaid PTSD from causes that went totally unaddressed. They were essentially trying to fix autism through exorcising the Imaginary Abuse Demons, while directly layering on more trauma and encouraging more emotional abuse at home. As the short version.)

That particular therapeutic garbage may have thankfully gone mostly out of fashion. But, there is still some equally terrible stuff with wide social acceptance.

I also get really tired of expectations of living your life as some piece of political performance art for other people’s benefit, at a much higher priority than being a human with actual needs and feelings that matter.

Because I’m apparently still kind of bothered by something that came up earlier, one thing I didn’t want to go into–because other people’s privacy–but all of it has come up before:

He pulls the same weird denial/shutting down instead of dealing stuff on himself. Including very specifically with medical issues.

This is someone who tried to convince himself that a cracked tooth might have healed itself, rather than go and see about it. He spent time on a burn unit when he was maybe 4, and needed painful surgeries afterwards. I don’t know that he has ever voluntarily seen a doctor or dentist in a non-emergency situation, other than one required physical for a visa application, as an adult. Who is now 46 years old. I know of literally two times he has seen a doctor.

It doesn’t make me happy, but I know better than to push and nag, no better than I like that behavior. He shows enough respect not to do that to me either, and I appreciate it with my own trauma there.

He also basically shuts down in any kind of situation like that–but will go along as moral support anyway if I need it. And try hard to cover up how much he’d rather be literally anywhere else. It doesn’t work that well.

Some inconvenient overlap of difficulties in this area, to put it mildly. It’s not great.

It’s also not the type of situation it might look like, based on limited information about what’s even going on.

There are a number of things like that. This particular bit of disability clash has made things harder for a while, though.