“Boone, Hays, and Myers encountered a man identified as L.H. in the crowd and arrested him. The undercover detective, a 22-year veteran of the police force, was dressed as a protester and providing information to officers about potential criminal activity in the crowd.
According to the indictment, Boone, Hays, and Myers used unreasonable force: throwing the detective to the ground, kicking him, and hitting him with a riot baton “while he was compliant and not posing a physical threat to anyone.”
When they learned that he was an undercover officer, the three men then lied about what they had done and accused him of resisting arrest, the indictment said. They tried to contact L.H. to convince him not to pursue disciplinary or legal action, and Boone, Hays, and Myers also met with or texted various potential witnesses to try to get them to join the cover-up, the indictment states.”
Jemel Roberson, a real life hero, was murdered by police. For being black.
What command did he refuse? Why was deadly force needed? Why are police acting without any training?
Fucking remember his name. He’s the literal good guy with a gun you conservatives keep talking about and he was gunned down.
Goddamn but this one is so fucking upsetting.
Jemel Roberson saved lives, protected ordinary citizens, wanted to be a cop himself, was dressed as security – and the cops murdered him because he was a black man with a gun. So many cops work off-duty as security guards. He could have been one of them and still gotten murdered.
The cops in this situation need to go down. No more blue hanging with blue protection; black cops need to recognize that this could easily have been them. White cops need to realize that fellow cops who could do this to a black security guard could do this to them if they misread their race in the split-second they take to assess the situation. What if you’re Italian and the cop on the scene thinks you’re an Arab? What if you’ve got a good tan? You’re not immune, no one is.
Cops need to be punished harshly for murdering people without knowing all the facts. They do it because they know they won’t be punished for it and they’re scared; an extra split-second to size up the situation and they could get shot! Well, tough, that was the risk you signed up for when you put on the uniform. Cops are first responders, they put their lives on the line. if they’re not willing to risk their lives, then they are dangers to everyone and need to hand in their guns and badges. With great power comes great responsibility; haven’t any of these guys ever read Spider-Man?
what the blue bloody hell is this? how on earth is that supposed be standard police practice?
Honestly if you havent seen this show/episode you won’t undertstand that child was something else smdh
It doesn’t matter how bloody ridiculous the child is. as the POLICE, you do not instigate a situation in which the child attacks you so you can then charge her for assaulting an officer or whatever else! That’s abuse of power. They have, or should have, training on how to deal with people who are being assholes. What has she taught the child, really? That the police are abusive fucks? Well yeah, they are. Have always been. And … what then?
Then how was the officer supposed to handle it? With a gentle “Ma’am, please don’t do that, that is attempted assault of an officer”? Yeah, cops can be brutal, no doubt, but this girl shouldn’t have gotten ramped up and swung. I could understand the fury if the girl was being complacent and cooperative, even if she was a little moody, then I’d say, “Hey, that’s unnecessary force, she wasn’t even a threat.” This girl in the .gif was being a threat, simple as that. If she didn’t want to get taken down the way she was, she shouldn’t have instigated the fight, simple as that. No one is going to care about her age, background, gender, whatever when she pulls the first punch. And fights, even when one side is getting neutralized, are not neat and clean like they are in the movies. It’s gonna be messy. That’s now and forever, fights aren’t clean and cute. The girl had to be a neutralized threat and that’s what happened.
I’m afraid I can’t agree. Professional security, let alone the police, are trained in deescalation techniques. The officer had a choice to escalate or deescalate, and the officer chose to escalate. The officer has the training, the officer has the power, the officer instigated by saying, “Hit me if you want to” knowing exactly what was going to happen next.
That’s straight-up instigation and entrapment on the part of the officer, who is doing pretty much the opposite (in terms of space management, body language, etc) of what is helpful to deescalate a potentially violent situation.
But I’m not even going to talk about that, because it’s already been said.
What I want to talk about is how absurdly, unnecessarily brutal and UNSAFE that takedown was. That officer has superior size and body mass on that kid; in the event that this really was an unsalvagable situation and the child was an immediate threat to self/others who needed to be physically restrained, throwing the kid into a steel bench is fucking unacceptable – that’s asking for some pretty horrific bruising at best, and a spine injury or broken bones at worst. If that child had to be restrained, the correct thing to do would have been to deflect the first punch, then use established momentum to spin her around and put her into a supine or prone position on that nice flat floor there. That would be a safe, minimally-violent restraint for safety.
But that’s not what happened here, and I can tell you exactly why. You, in fact, already identified it:
“fights, even when one side is getting neutralized, are not neat and clean like they are in the movies. It’s gonna be messy. That’s now and forever, fights aren’t clean and cute”
This isn’t the professional conduct of a person addressing someone in acute crisis, trying to deescalate the situation and maintain the safety of all involved parties, resorting to physical restraint only when absolutely necessary. This is a FIGHT. This is an adult figure with significant authority starting a fight with a kid.
The following may stray into Appeal to Authority: I work at a group home for kids who’ve been removed from their homes (usually due to abuse or neglect; these are kids with trauma histories) who can’t be cycled right into foster care because of violent behaviors that make them unsafe to themselves or unsafe to be in the general community. I used to work with the kids 6-12, and now I work with the kids 12-18.
Years I’ve worked in this field: six
Number of punches thrown at me: countless
Number of physical restraints I’ve performed: THREE.
Three physical restraints, in six years of work, across a population of over a hundred children of assorted ages. Because it is that easy to deescalate a situation – even one where punches are already being thrown – without resorting to physical takedowns, if you have very basic training in how to do so.
Words I’ve never said to a kid in crisis: “hit me if you want to”
This is not appropriate conduct. This is brutality.
And to answer your question here:
“Then how was the officer supposed to handle it?”
At the beginning of this video, when the kid is angrily running in place? Take a step back, stand in a neutral pose (hands at sides, feet shoulder-width apart, as little tension in the body as you can manage) keep a neutral expression on your face, and WAIT. Don’t say anything, don’t do anything, just wait. The kid will get tired of running in place and burn through their immediate panic energy/anger. They will reach physical and mental fatigue WAY before you do. Maintain your calm and composure, because you are a fucking adult with coping skills and can manage your stress in this situation. A kid often -can’t- because they don’t HAVE the coping skills you have.
And if you can’t, because you don’t have the coping skills? You have no fucking business being in a position of authority.
Honestly if you follow me and you think what this officer did was ok, block and unfollow me
On top of tasing her, on top of blaming a fucking child for the very real lack of resources often faced by minority communities, this grown-ass man is gaslighting a little girl.
I didn’t want to do it.
It hurt me to do it.
You made me do it.
Fuck that man to the farthest reaches of hell, if you can’t handle a child without abusing her you need to get the fuck out of any job that puts one in your care for any goddamn reason.
Also, for some perspective, when I was working retail and minors got caught shoplifting (red-handed caught, mind you, literally shoving nail polish in their pockets in front of asset protection kind of caught) there were rules about how that shit got handled.
One of which was knowing that minors are fucking children and that you can’t use a goddamn motherfucking taser on one.
I’m usually not an eye-for-an-eye person, but I don’t feel any hesitation in admitting I hope someone tases that bastard until he begs for it to end.
Only to be told that we didn’t want to do it, he made us do it.
But not that it hurt our hearts because it sure as fuck wouldn’t.
“A white off-duty police officer who lived in Unit 1378 — directly below Mr. Jean — claimed that she mistakenly entered the wrong apartment after returning home from her 14-hour shift and believed Mr. Jean, who is black, was an intruder. Officer Amber R. Guyger, 30, fired her service weapon twice, striking him once in the torso.”
“The officer told investigators the door was slightly ajar and then fully opened when she inserted her computerized chip key; lawyers for Mr. Jean’s family said the door was closed. Officer Guyger said in court documents that when she opened the door, the apartment was dark and she saw a silhouette of someone she thought was a burglar. She said she shouted commands that were ignored. Neighbors, however, have told lawyers for Mr. Jean’s relatives that they heard someone banging on the door and shouting, “Let me in!” and “Open up!” before gunshots rang out. They said they then heard a man, presumably Mr. Jean, say, “Oh my God, why did you do that?””
“Mr. Jean’s relatives, lawyers and supporters all say it would have been difficult for the officer to have mistaken Mr. Jean’s door: It had a large, bright-red, semicircular doormat, lying on a bare concrete floor. Officer Guyger had none. Would she not have noticed?”
“Officials said she had with her a police vest, duty bag and lunchbox — items she might be expected to carry to her own front door, not someone else’s.”
“charging the officer not with murder but with the lesser charge of manslaughter. They also want to know why she was not immediately arrested at the scene, but was allowed to go free until she was officially charged three days later. They are demanding that Officer Guyger, who remains on paid administrative leave, be fired.”
(in my limited law knowledge: texas stand your ground/self defense laws do not protect guyger here because she did not ‘have the right to be present’ and was in fact intruding on personal property (there should be a breaking and entering charge (does not require use of force to be charged)), even if she allegedly did not intend to. in general similar protection are unlikely to apply since she was the aggressor in either allegded version of events. in general, in the officers version there is still on or the other or both (1) intent to seriously injure or kill (2) extreme and reckless disregard for life, making it second degree murder. in the witnesses version of its premeditated first degree murder)
“… State Senator Royce West, a Democrat who is African-American and whose district includes the South Side Flats. “The question is whether or not she saw a black man and then decided to shoot. Regardless of whether or not he was in the right place or not, her first impulse appeared to be that she was going to fire her weapon.””
OK Highway Patrol Captain George Brown says the best “tip” for women to not get raped by a cop is to “follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over.” http://youtu.be/BO8g8akPWcY (Last third of the video).
Three serial rapists in 3 weeks arrested in Oklahoma, all cops.
Pro tip: if you’re signaled to pull over (whether you’re male or female) and you’re in a place that has no witnesses, turn your hazard lights on to acknowledge the officer’s siren, and drive to the nearest gas station or populated area. This is accepted protocol by every agency. You are not obligated pull over until you can do so safely. This includes personal safety. Understand your rights, brothers and sisters. There are disgusting examples of authority in this world.
HAZARD LIGHTS ARE NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. IT IS NOT ACCEPTED PROTOCOL BY EVERY AGENCY. DO NOT JUST CONTINUE DRIVING WITH YOUR HAZARD LIGHTS IN CASE THE COP MIGHT THINK IT’S A LOW-SPEED CHASE.
I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out. My mother is a dispatcher for the local police station. I asked her about how to pull over for a cop and even brought up the use of hazard lights, and she told me that it is not always accepted. This is what she told me you can do in order to feel safe when pulling over:
Call the police. No, really. Call and tell the dispatcher where you are and that there is a cop behind you demanding you pull over. The dispatcher can and will stay on the line with you while they look up the area you’re in to see if it’s one of their station’s cops. Then, once the cop comes to your window, you can crack it open (it only has to be an inch!) while still on the phone with the dispatcher. This is definitely, 100% accepted protocol.
The dispatcher will verify that it is their own, real cop, and they will gladly stay on the line with you throughout your interaction with the officer. And God forbid this ever happens to any of you, but if something were to happen to you during this time, you’ve already contacted 911 and given your location to the dispatcher.
Please keep this in mind if you are ever requested to pull over and do not feel safe. The dispatcher will understand. Do not, however, continue to drive, because there might be the off-chance an officer will think you’re flat-out refusing to pull over (a well-lit, populated area might be a ways away).
Stay safe.
Signal boost.
Because I personally know some creepy ass mother fuckers who became cops because they’re demented psychopaths and they get off on having control over people.
In light of current bullshit, this might be a good idea for a LOT of people, not just women. Marginalized minorities of all stripes, take note. I hate taking up an emergency dispatcher’s resources, but i also hate seeing yet another fucked up news story about police harming citizens.
THIIIIS
Remember not to drive home right away either. Cops have no issue making up reasons to break in and rape you either.
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