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IM LAUGIHNG HARDER THAN EVER RIGHT THIS SECOND

Reblogging this again because Chris just made me realize that sheep are so stupid that I can’t even think like them:

These sheep? They are actually running away from the car.

They are so stupid that they’re following each other in a circle around the thing they are running from.

SHEEPNADO

when your group cohesion is set higher than your flee response distance.

Moshpit

This is actually called a sheep cyclone and it happens because sheep don’t have a hierarchy. In most herds, whichever animal is the leader will sense danger and take off running. The rest of the herd takes it’s cues from the leader and follows. Sheep, on the other hand, don’t have a leader. If the flock runs, they run, and they follow whatever fluffy tail happens to be in front of them. Usually, this works out fine for the sheep. Occasionally, however, the sheep in the front starts following the fluffy tail of the sheep in the back so the whole flock ends up running in circles, going nowhere fast.

sheeps are morons lmao

is this what the doggos are for

@gallusrostromegalus

This is, to my understanding, excactly WHY we have both herding and livestock guardian dogs.  Sheep are… really amazingly dumb most of the time.  

Then, once in a while, you get one sheep that’s Entirely Too Cunning and that’s when all hell breaks loose.

…that sounds like a horror story

I have been informed by those who study domestic animal behaviour that it’s not so much that they’re stupid with the occasional intelligent one, as that their priorities are so different from our priorities – in part because we did things like deliberately breed dominant traits out of them over thousands of years – that you have to change how you think about how they work at all. 

The one, major, overwhelming priority of sheep: Stay With The Herd. This is why you get sheepnados: every single sheep is doing his or her devoted best to stay with the herd. So the sheep runs out of the way … .to the rest of the herd. At which point the other sheep follow it and … .you get sheepnado. 

The sheepnado continues in part because there’s nothing to stop it: the car doesn’t actually present a clear and present threat (none of the sheep have been hurt), and there’s no farmer or dog to take that lead position and give them direction. It’s ore or less succeeding at what it needs to, which is that no sheep are being run down by the car, but, THE HERD IS STAYING TOGETHER. 

If you want to see how smart a sheep gets, take it away from the herd. 

(And if you think about this, it makes perfect sense: “stay with the herd” has HUGE SELECTION PRESSURE on it for domestic sheep. Domestic sheep who stray, die without reproducing. Domestic sheep that get stroppy with the farmer or interfere with the leadership of farmer and his dogs … die, usually without reproducing. Domestic sheep that Stay With The Herd? Usually live and reproduce. The herd becomes ALL IMPORTANT. It’s not that they don’t know they’re running in circles, it’s that running in circles achieves The Goal.

It’s not that sheep have no survival instincts: it’s that we as a species have actually redirected their survival instincts in one overwhelming direction, and evolution is a messy kludge.) 

And then if you want to give yourself a head-trip, combine this with those Humans Are Weird SF posts and start wondering what kind of behaviours WE have that could look, to an alien with a very different priority set, as stupid as sheepnado.  

I mean really, AS A SPECIES: full-contact team sports. 

We expend lifetimes of effort and time and energy to risk catastrophic life-and-quality-of-life-threatening injury (concussion, broken neck, broken collar bone, broken face … ), in order to chase a ball around the field. Never mind the sheer level of engineering, money and resources necessary to make a hockey rink. 

And the spectators are even worse. People spend huge amounts of resources going to strange places in order to sit in the stands and watch people do the above. 

I don’t really think we have that much ground to mock sheepnado. 

Actual sheep expert here! (Like, my doctoral thesis contains three years of sheep behavioural experiments)

I think the mistake everyone is making here is assuming these sheep are scared. Note the guy by the wall. If they were scared of humans or cars that’d be sufficient to not only break the tornado but also have them running for the hills. The problem is basically they are not scared enough.

Let me explain!

So you know your personal space bubble, right? You are likely to feel very threatened when that stranger at the party moves in too close and take a step back to keep him at bay. Also, no one likes sitting right next to someone at a cinema or on the train unless the other seats are taken, right? So sheep have that, but it applies to non-sheep that are pinged as possible predators. Cows have it too. Makes sense, right? Anyone who gets in too close who you don’t know is likely to be a predator, regardless of your species.

This personal space bubble might be, oh, say, ½ a kilometre in size if they live in the middle of the outback with 2000 of their buddies and see a human once a season for medication, but are otherwise left to their own devices. Most of the time though it’s far smaller, and there isn’t really one for members of their flock, although if there’s no threats around they’ll spread out to graze across an entire paddock, staying close to their bffs.

(Tangent: the CSIRO found out in the 70s or 80s, by use of some guy, binoculars and countless manhours, that yes, sheep tend to hang out with the same sheep again and again when people aren’t running around scaring them. They may look alike to you or I but they recognise each others faces, just like we do!)

ANYWAY. Say you’re a person coming in to herd them. They’ll ignore you until you get close to the boundaries of that personal space bubble then the ones nearest to you will start looking at you nervously in a, “Gosh, that guy better not be moving towards me. Sandra, do you think he’s coming towards us?” kind of way, and will be trying to decide whether to go or stay – just like one might when the creeper comes into the party and starts walking towards you.

Now, the leader sheep, that they all follow? She’s not the smartest or most independent one, she’s the one with the smallest personal space bubble and the distance you’ve walked to get the others nervous is close enough to get her unhappy. She’ll run in the direction opposite to you. In which case her supportive buddies flocking instincts kick in and they go, “Oh shit, Sandra thinks it’s a threat. Cluster up, girls!” and all zoom off together, away from the threat. Sandra has no idea where she’s going, she’s scared, but if another predator turns out to be in the direction they’re running the flock will split and run on either side of them to merge again, rather crowd at the train station around a pylon kind of way.

(Tangent: In low stress stock handling, the welfare gold star modern method of livestock handling, we take advantage of this by teaching sheep their boundaries will be respected. We move to the edges of their their flight zone – that is, personal space bubble – and let them move away, letting them learn that we will not push too much or hurt them. If they gently keep pace we’ll steer them towards the yard with food while respecting their wishes to not be near us. They don’t get scared, and no one – us or them – accidentally gets hurt by a panicked stamped)

Returning to the above photo! The problems start if they are so used to you the flight zone is tiny. You’re an adopted member of the flock, they actually are cool with you being at arms distance. You can’t cuddle them, you’re not an actual sheep, but you have to really get close, go, “OI! MOVE IT LADIES!” and wave your arms around to get them moving, because they know you’re not a threat. Same applies to cars actually. And they can tell motors apart by sound. The ute is kinda boring, but the tractor or gator? Holy shit, food delivery time!

And that is how we’ve ended up with sheepnados around the gator, which we were using because it was a four wheel drive and the ute would get bogged, but I had experiments to do. And they decided this meant food and bailed me up until I fed them. I didn’t even have more than a bucket on me. I had to run ahead, sprinkling it like bird seed to get them to move, so we wouldn’t accidentally kill them. Annnnnnd I’ll bet you anything that the sheep in the picture were used to being fed by exactly the same kind of ute, if not by the same one, and the poor driver is trying to inch forward to get to town but the sheep are just FRIEND? FOOD FRIEND? HI FRIEND. FOOD NOW? NOW?

Supporting visual evidence? Look at how there’s no running away from the car, when ute herding, complete with horn beeping is actually a very common way to herd flocks. Look at how the ute is miserably inching forward, giving them a clear direction to run, but they are so not scared that at the moment flocking instinct has kicked in but not enough panic to actually direct it. I Imagine the driver is honking like crazy, to no avail. Look at the random terrifying predator human by the wall, who is sensibly turning his back to the sheep, because if the predator has his back turned you can run behind him! But no sheep is utilising the supplied alternate route. Yeah, these guys aren’t scared, this is an armed robbery of an empty pizza delivery truck.

ALSO! Posters higher up in the thread, please stop saying sheep are stupid? They’re not! Just panicky and scared of us! I’ve taught sheep to solve mazes and remember the route days later. You can teach them stuff in a day that takes a month to teach monkeys! If you’ve ever frozen up in an exam or while public speaking, surely you’d know how hard it is to be smart when you’re frightened? The first step to intelligence testing a sheep is to either automate everything – or do what I did and more or less raise them from birth so they bail you up for cuddles when they see you, and follow you as leader sheep. Downside? They will learn to open multiple kinds of gates just to follow you, and any sheep you take with you to put in the maze, half a kilometre down the road because GUYS YOU FORGOT US!!! 😀 😀 😀 (“Sheep, no, stop! I left you there to get shorn! It’s SUMMER, you’re HOT, please stay here for your haircut! You’ve finished the maze, you know the route too well! I can’t give you reward treats when we’ve established that you’ve memorised it, that’s cheating!”) Or, you know, become impossible to herd and mill around you, and your car, because they want to hang out and have no sense of urgency.

THERE YOU GO EVERYONE. SHEEP: EXPLAINED . XDXD

@elodieunderglass animal behaviours – intersting stuff! Sheeps!

I do love sheeps! and isn’t it amazing how much seemingly bizarre behavior can be explained if you just respect and honor the motivations of the organism? It works for people, children, herd animals, plants, enemies, friends, arguments, advertising… and sheeps.

Such good phrase: “isn’t it amazing how much seemingly bizarre behavior can be explained
if you just respect and honor the motivations of the organism? It works
for people, children, herd animals, plants, enemies, friends, arguments,
advertising… and sheeps.“

plaantboy:

reyesvidal:

reyesvidal:

hot take: autistic people shouldn’t have to disclose that we’re autistic in order not to get mocked for our behaviour

what i mean is i’ve seen/experienced way too many times where someone’s being ridiculed over doing something harmless and when the people doing the mocking find out the person’s autistic they’re like ‘ooohhh…….. well i didnt know…’ and apologize. like? at that point it doesn’t even matter if the person is autistic or not, if you’re making fun of autistic behaviour you’re making fun of autistic people, period. either you’re an asshole or you’re not, and autistic people shouldn’t have to inform everyone that we’re autistic in order to get some sympathy and be allowed to exist as we are without getting made fun of

if someone if doing something that isn’t harming or legitimately upsetting anyone, no matter how odd or annoying or “stupid” you may find it, literally just let that person be.

Pardon Our Interruption

lysikan:

bittersnurr:

aspergersissues:

I see this very differently than the professor who wrote this. She wants to pay her back about how she acted with a disabled student, but I’ve been in the student’s position more times than I would have liked to. Here’s what most likely happened.

The student takes this letter to the professor and asks to meet with her privately. She does it privately because other students have made a big deal about her accommodations before and it’s embarrassing.

The professor seems friendly, so she disclosed exactly what she needs. Then the professor sits the letter aside and questions her about how often this actually happens, and tells her how big a problem it would be if it happened in this course. This is a threat. The professor is now making her uncomfortable asking for help when she needs it. In my experience, when you have a professor act like this, they’ll often shoot you down when you do ask for help later. The student has probably experienced just this.

After the professor blows off her needs, the student sits in the back of the class and never speaks to the professor again. She obviously no longer trusts the professor anymore. She never used her accommodation that semester. That could be because she never had a panic attack, but more likely, she had several and felt threatened that she’d be kept from graduating if she showed any weakness and asked for help. She may have done well in the course, but it was likely at a huge cost to her health in some way.

Because this student felt so alienated, the professor thinks they did a good job. I’ve lived through this dozens of times. The professor failed this student. She had to work much harder than other students without disabilities to go the same distance. It’s not fucking fair.

It sickens me to see a professor acting like this and thinking they’re the hero of all disabled students. I really wish I could say it’s unique, but it’s fucking not. Not even close.

Yeah the tone of this is very much she seems to think most people don’t need as many accomedation as they are given, even though I generally hear a lot more of people getting nowhere near enough help.

Honestly it also kind of stands out she is a psychology professor I bet that’s part of why she is so entitled and egocentric. Despite having no context for the student’s problems she feels qualified to give unsolicited medical advice, which I am willing to bet was probably like, breathing exercises and shit that you could get out of a random woman’s health magazine, and then she goes home feeling like she saved someone with her shitty generic tips and refusal to help.

Also the second student it seems like she and some other teacher randomly decided a student was a mental health risk, with no evidence of any diagnosis or anything even, and people put them on watch over this despite from what I can tell the student NEVER ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING?

And then she pats herself on the back for butting into someone’s buisness on an unproven hunch which never actually was shown to be nessassary like????

Like she apparently has decided that she knows what is better for random strangers then they or their own doctors do and is enforcing it and acting like it makes her a hero somehow but, what it really makes her is that obnoxious sitcom psychologist that shows up in one episode giving unsolicited life advice while psychoanalysing their behavior that at the end ofbthe episode gets told to never come back and everyone hates them

To quote the opening of the article:
“The student, let’s call her “Lee,” arrived at my office at the appointed time, took the chair I indicated, pulled a form from her backpack, and shot me a look. Not confrontational, but not exactly friendly, either — a demeanor underscored by the old black motorcycle jacket and punk haircut she sported. She was in a large lecture course I was teaching, and had asked to see me in this first week of term. As soon as I glimpsed the form, I knew she was here to tell me which accommodations the accessibility office had deemed her eligible to receive.”
The author is telling us right from the start that they make judgements based on appearance and prejudice about disabled people. Nothing they say after that matters.
If you start out with those attitudes you CANNOT make unbiased decisions.
The author admits to being an ableist bigot without knowing they did it because in their world “looking punk” is so bad that it’s acceptable to be rude to people who do. The author can’t understand why a person who has been referred to them for accomodations might not be a model of conformity in presentation or attitude.
Like, Dude, this kid has been through hell because the system has failed them because they are not “normal” and you want them to act like a model employee at a job interview?
You failed your number one job requirement – doing your best to help THE STUDENT (not your own idea of what a student should be).

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fierceawakening:

moniquill:

So I’m a phlebotomist.
And sometimes, I work at a site that is directly adjacent to an endocrinologist.
Which means I see and take blood from a lot of folks that are trans, or nonbinary, or gender nonconforming.

Do you have any fucking idea how easy it is, in customer-service speak, to respect someone’s gender?

I mean, I’ve had super awkward situations where I have to say things like ‘I’m sorry, that name isn’t coming up in our system. Is there another name…“
And without fail they provide their deadname and I plug it in and I say ‘Ok, that came up, do you want me to fix that in our system?” And they say ‘Yes’ and then I ADD IT AS A SYNOMYMOUS NAME. Same as I would for someone recently married or divorced. The end.

I have never experienced a situation in which I have felt motivated to ask someone’s pronouns.

I have had situations in which I have thought to myself ‘I have no idea if this person is ‘sir’ or ‘ma’am’ and instead have gone ‘Next patient please?’ or ‘I can help who’s next’ or ‘I can help you now’
while looking directly at them.

I have had situations where I’ve gone ‘I’m like 90% certain that I’ve been given a record with this person’s deadname because this name does not match at all the gender presentation of the person I’m looking at’
And I say ‘Ok, can you spell your last name for me? Ok, spell your first name? And your date of birth?’

and then I quietly write ‘preferred name [the name they just spelled] on the top of thier record.

THIS IS NOT HARD.

And if this is not hard for me, as a person working in medicine who has to make certain that the person I’m talking to is the same person on the medical record that I’m looking up, how much easier must it be for, say, a barista who doesn’t give half a fuck who you are? I’ve BEEN a barista in the past.
If a Barista is asking your pronouns, that person is an asshole.

Things like this are why “always ask pronouns” doesn’t sit right with me.

There are communities where it makes sense to ask. I’m not saying there aren’t!

But there are also lots of environments where asking doesn’t come off as “yeah so I think it’s totally fine for trans ladies to rock beards <3” but rather comes off as “I’ve clocked you and I want everyone in earshot to know this.”

mikalhvi:

dragon-in-a-fez:

cispiciousblk:

slimy:

it shouldn’t surprise people that respecting a cat’s boundaries (i.e. ceasing to pet them after they paw at you) helps them trust you more

Bathbomb was dropped off at my apartment very abused and scared he hid in the bathtub for an entire 24hrs. he barely/if ever ate for about a week and didnt begin exploring the apartment until 3 weeks in

it was a month before he came up to me and it was hard but i sat kinda near him every day i would treat him like he was a new cat and let him smell me before trying to pet him and if he even looked uncomfortable id gently stop and just sing or talk to him

now he climbs on my back and jumps on my shoulder if i dont pay attention to him so it takes work and time

cats are like ppl and have triggers and quirks and trauma and we have to be respectful and gentle its not that hard of a concept

this is an Important Post but my favorite part is that your cat’s name is Bathbomb

Well I mean, he was in the tub… Makes sense.

acciolilyc:

naamahdarling:

moniquill:

So I’m a phlebotomist.
And sometimes, I work at a site that is directly adjacent to an endocrinologist.
Which means I see and take blood from a lot of folks that are trans, or nonbinary, or gender nonconforming.

Do you have any fucking idea how easy it is, in customer-service speak, to respect someone’s gender?

I mean, I’ve had super awkward situations where I have to say things like ‘I’m sorry, that name isn’t coming up in our system. Is there another name…“
And without fail they provide their deadname and I plug it in and I say ‘Ok, that came up, do you want me to fix that in our system?” And they say ‘Yes’ and then I ADD IT AS A SYNOMYMOUS NAME. Same as I would for someone recently married or divorced. The end.

I have never experienced a situation in which I have felt motivated to ask someone’s pronouns.

I have had situations in which I have thought to myself ‘I have no idea if this person is ‘sir’ or ‘ma’am’ and instead have gone ‘Next patient please?’ or ‘I can help who’s next’ or ‘I can help you now’
while looking directly at them.

I have had situations where I’ve gone ‘I’m like 90% certain that I’ve been given a record with this person’s deadname because this name does not match at all the gender presentation of the person I’m looking at’
And I say ‘Ok, can you spell your last name for me? Ok, spell your first name? And your date of birth?’

and then I quietly write ‘preferred name [the name they just spelled] on the top of thier record.

THIS IS NOT HARD.

And if this is not hard for me, as a person working in medicine who has to make certain that the person I’m talking to is the same person on the medical record that I’m looking up, how much easier must it be for, say, a barista who doesn’t give half a fuck who you are? I’ve BEEN a barista in the past.
If a Barista is asking your pronouns, that person is an asshole.

This just gave me so much hope, thank you.

yup, pretty much, I work issuing documents and helping people solve legal problems, it’s vital that I know that the person I’m talking to is the person they say they are, still never had to ask someone their pronouns.

By the nature of where I work, I can’t enter a preferred name on their file if it isn’t on a valid document first, but sure as hell I can make as non-confrontational and not-in-their-face as possible. 

If I have a reason to believe the person is transgender I just ask for any form of id at the door to check if they have an appointment, instead of asking for their names and forcing them to use their deadname. If I’m not sure the name in their documents are the name they are currently using I don’t use any names out loud while talking to them. If I’m unsure about which pronoun to use I just avoid them all together. The slightly informality of addressing someone as “you” without an attached ma’am or sir is much better than getting it wrong.

As part of my job, I have to double check all the info we have on their files, usually by reading it of the screen, if the person gender presentation doesn’t match their name and gender on the file I just turn the computer screen around so they can read it themselves and check instead of reading it out loud on a room full of people.

Of course there is awkward moments, sometimes I will get asked if I can’t change their files info and I have to apologize and say I need to follow what is on their document, or I will have to put an actual post it on something so the person handling it after me knows that there is no mix up and the picture is really of the person in question.

But all in all it’s not hard, and that is working somewhere where I can’t be accommodating and have to stick to what is legally true, independent of presentation. If people who don’t give a fuck about government records ask your gender/pronouns to sell you coffee they are definitely just being assholes.  

I mean, there are a lot of things other people do that I may never understand. And more than a few that I don’t much like.

But, the vast majority of the time, is this any of my legitimate concern? No, it really really is not unless it’s actively harming somebody. I don’t need to understand or like what anybody else is doing. It’s their business. Sticking my nose in would cause problems where none existed before. Would I appreciate the same treatment? Right.

Seems like a simple enough idea, but obviously not everyone is down with that 😩

cocofinster:

butterflyinthewell:

This rant can apply to any disability that makes toileting difficult or impossible. I’m just specifying autism because freaking Autism Moms™ always broadcast the diapers and it pisses me off.

Having to wear incontinence products isn’t something to be ashamed of, but it’s not cool to out somebody who wears them either unless they say you can or do it themselves.

THAT INCLUDES: All you damn autism moms who post videos / photos on the freakin’ internet explicitly showing that your autistic child (adult or young) still wearing diapers at age whatever. 

THAT INCLUDES: All you damn autism moms who talk about how your child isn’t toilet trained at age whatever and stating that they wear diapers as if you have to make them as embarrassed as possible to shut down advocates like me who can speak or type to tell YOU to shut up.

“They won’t see it / they won’t understand” is not a valid excuse. Talking about or showing a disabled person’s diapers without their consent serves zero educational purpose. That is not how you treat someone you claim to love and respect.

Outing someone’s incontinence without their consent is NOT educational, loving or respectful.

I mean, they clearly think anyone with what’s simply a separate medical disability (incontinence) has no mind with which to comprehend they have it, but they probably talk to people they don’t know have it every day. It’s just that obvious disability in someone you live with makes every comorbid condition seem like a symptom and treated like a behavior problem (or treated with non-science).

butterflyinthewell:

This rant can apply to any disability that makes toileting difficult or impossible. I’m just specifying autism because freaking Autism Moms™ always broadcast the diapers and it pisses me off.

Having to wear incontinence products isn’t something to be ashamed of, but it’s not cool to out somebody who wears them either unless they say you can or do it themselves.

THAT INCLUDES: All you damn autism moms who post videos / photos on the freakin’ internet explicitly showing that your autistic child (adult or young) still wearing diapers at age whatever. 

THAT INCLUDES: All you damn autism moms who talk about how your child isn’t toilet trained at age whatever and stating that they wear diapers as if you have to make them as embarrassed as possible to shut down advocates like me who can speak or type to tell YOU to shut up.

“They won’t see it / they won’t understand” is not a valid excuse. Talking about or showing a disabled person’s diapers without their consent serves zero educational purpose. That is not how you treat someone you claim to love and respect.

Outing someone’s incontinence without their consent is NOT educational, loving or respectful.