heavyweightheart:

the minnesota starvation experiment is SO wild, like these guys didn’t eat less than 1500 calories per day at the very lowest point and they ate that for barely 6 months and lost their minds. they were obsessive-compulsive about food, tried so many times to sneak-binge food that they had to put security measures in place to stop them, they were extremely lethargic, irritable, had no sex drive, couldn’t concentrate, and had hyperphagia (extreme eating/hunger) for months and even years after the study ended. and they didn’t have eating disorders! 

considering that most people with EDs are sick for much, much longer than that, and often restrict much more severely, it’s a wonder that anyone makes it through tbh. bc it’s not only the physical chaos you have to endure, there’s an additional psychological burden that the MSE subjects didn’t have to bear (the starvation itself is responsible for some of what we identify as ED symptoms, but not all). we basically have a food phobia, and most of us have body dysmorphia plus massive anxiety about weight gain. often we’re returning hard to emotions and trauma and all the pain we tried to cope with using the ED, and we’re doing so in these incredibly vulnerable bodies that are performing triage on themselves. 

starvation and refeeding are harrowing even without debilitating fears around food, body image distortions, and other mental health issues, but with them?? i hope y’all know how much you’re overcoming

naamahdarling:

modalarabear:

bigmouthlass:

fadingthebiscuit:

to-dance-beneath-the-diamond-sky:

naamahdarling:

naamahdarling:

little-limabean:

runtrovert:

Friendly reminder that 1200 calories is the recommended amount for a 5 year old

this hit me.

another fact is that 500 calories isn’t even enough for a new born.

why did I go so long convinced that going over 500 in a day was the end of the world?

Another friendly reminder that the United States used 1,000 calorie diets as torture for political prisoners and justified it using the diet industry.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/bush-torture-memos-commer_n_188190.html

In a footnote to a May 10, 2005, memorandum from the Office of Legal Council, the Bush attorney general’s office argued that restricting the caloric intake of terrorist suspects to 1000 calories a day was medically safe because people in the United States were dieting along those lines voluntarily.

“While detainees subject to dietary manipulation are obviously situated differently from individuals who voluntarily engage in commercial weight-loss programs, we note that widely available commercial weight-loss programs in the United States employ diets of 1000 kcal/day for sustain periods of weeks or longer without requiring medical supervision,” read the footnote. “While we do not equate commercial weight loss programs and this interrogation technique, the fact that these calorie levels are used in the weight-loss programs, in our view, is instructive in evaluating the medical safety of the interrogation technique.”

Another another friendly reminder that the Minnesota Starvation Experiment subjected adult men who were VOLUNTEERS to 1,560 calorie diets and the psychological effects were so profound that one volunteer cut three of his own fingers off and could not remember why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

These men were volunteers who knew exactly what they would be going through and when it would end, and who believed they were doing it for a good and moral reason (the research was used to help rehabilitate victims of starvation and famine at the end of WWII).

And these are the things we are expected to engage in FOREVER to stay at a “healthy” weight.

Reading about the Minnesota Starvation experiment was my wake-up call.  It was what kicked me out of my eating disorder.  The guy missing three fingers, whatever his name was, he was the last straw for me.

Scared me so fucking bad I stopped restricting my food that day, and never went back to it.

Just bringin’ this back around like I sometimes do.

Wow. This really hit me hard.

EAT

Fun fact– calorie restriction exacerbates symptoms of pretty much *every* mental illness.

One of the BEST WAYS I fight my anorexia is wising up with scientific facts, and letting go of my twisted logic!!!

When you feel like restricting, remember that diet culture MADE you think restriction=weightloss=skinny=Good.

Gina Kolata’s book Rethinking Thin has a lot of fact and is very readable, for those wanting a jumping-off point.

rowantheexplorer:

greenekangaroo:

golbatgender:

jezi-belle:

sea-dilemma:

lolotehe:

serbianslayer:

mightbeunknown:

uacboo:

From Twitter.

is it weird that as i got through the tweet my understanding of it lessens?

If you had a recent ancestor who went through starvation it actually altered their genetics and may have passed down genes to you that make you hold on to fat. So this tweet is more accurate than you’d think.

More on that.

Seriously, my body is expecting the next ice age.

OH MY FUCKING GOD.

MY FUCKING GREAT GRANDFATHER LITERALLY FLED LEBANON DUE TO A FUCKING FAMINE AND MY GRANDMOTHER AND DAD AND I ARE ALL FAT AS FUCKING HELL.

FUCK ME RUNNING I DID NOT KNOW THIS.

…That’s going to apply also to anyone whose recent ancestors voluntarily dieted a lot, isn’t it. Diet culture long-term causes more obesity. Sure, it takes decades to show up, but anything you’d hear today about childhood obesity would reflect that. Exercising is still very good for most people, but trying to lose weight shouldn’t be the goal for most people, because a) it usually doesn’t work very well or it comes back and b) your kids or grandkids could end up with extra wonky metabolisms. (And while fat itself is actually not that much of a problem if you keep your fitness up, it can be hard on your joints. That’s actually the biggest health risk if you’re “small end of fat,” under 40, and active–joint problems.)

THAT MOTHERFUCKING ARTIFICIAL FAMINE THAT’S IT I’M GONNA FIGHT THE ENGLISH 

Honestly, “I’m gonna fight the English” is a good reaction to a lot of things.

crazy-pages:

bigmouthlass:

fadingthebiscuit:

to-dance-beneath-the-diamond-sky:

naamahdarling:

naamahdarling:

little-limabean:

runtrovert:

Friendly reminder that 1200 calories is the recommended amount for a 5 year old

this hit me.

another fact is that 500 calories isn’t even enough for a new born.

why did I go so long convinced that going over 500 in a day was the end of the world?

Another friendly reminder that the United States used 1,000 calorie diets as torture for political prisoners and justified it using the diet industry.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/bush-torture-memos-commer_n_188190.html

In a footnote to a May 10, 2005, memorandum from the Office of Legal Council, the Bush attorney general’s office argued that restricting the caloric intake of terrorist suspects to 1000 calories a day was medically safe because people in the United States were dieting along those lines voluntarily.

“While detainees subject to dietary manipulation are obviously situated differently from individuals who voluntarily engage in commercial weight-loss programs, we note that widely available commercial weight-loss programs in the United States employ diets of 1000 kcal/day for sustain periods of weeks or longer without requiring medical supervision,” read the footnote. “While we do not equate commercial weight loss programs and this interrogation technique, the fact that these calorie levels are used in the weight-loss programs, in our view, is instructive in evaluating the medical safety of the interrogation technique.”

Another another friendly reminder that the Minnesota Starvation Experiment subjected adult men who were VOLUNTEERS to 1,560 calorie diets and the psychological effects were so profound that one volunteer cut three of his own fingers off and could not remember why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

These men were volunteers who knew exactly what they would be going through and when it would end, and who believed they were doing it for a good and moral reason (the research was used to help rehabilitate victims of starvation and famine at the end of WWII).

And these are the things we are expected to engage in FOREVER to stay at a “healthy” weight.

Reading about the Minnesota Starvation experiment was my wake-up call.  It was what kicked me out of my eating disorder.  The guy missing three fingers, whatever his name was, he was the last straw for me.

Scared me so fucking bad I stopped restricting my food that day, and never went back to it.

Just bringin’ this back around like I sometimes do.

Wow. This really hit me hard.

EAT

Fun fact– calorie restriction exacerbates symptoms of pretty much *every* mental illness.

Anorexia has ~16% mortality rate, slightly higher than acted upon suicidal ideation. It’s more lethal than actively trying to kill oneself and this is why.

thecrazygeek-rant:

capriciousnerd:

captainsaltymuyfancy:

thisisthinprivilege:

captainsaltymuyfancy:

That Debbie Ryan fat girl show “Insatiable”, and the attitudes it relies on are super relevant to me because I was Debbie Ryan’s character for 4 months, and it just further proves how much society openly and unapologetically hates fat people. As if anyone could just not eat for 3 months and lose ~150 lbs!

Funny how when my intestines were trying to kill me, I went 4 fucking months without eating hardly anything and I was literally starving because my stomach couldn’t handle food. I lost 50 lbs in the first month before I actually found food I could (barely) stomach. If I had kept losing weight at that pace, I would have lost like 200 lbs from May to August.

And you know what? Even after starving I was still fat. You know what I lost? Muscle mass. I was athletic and active before I got sick, but then I got sick and lost energy, and even getting up from bed was exhausting. If I had kept losing weight at that pace, I would have fucking died by the time classes started up.

And I still remember my “doctor” congratulating me on losing all that weight in that short period of time. I was STARVING TO DEATH. I was so weak I almost needed a wheelchair just to get into the clinic from the car, I was fucking malnourished, and she was congratulating me.

THAT is how much society hates fat people. “Hey good job dying, you might actually become a person of value before your organs shut down and kill you.”

Your doctor and the people congratulating you while you were starving are despicable, OP. Despicable.

I had an ED an dropped 80 lbs in 4 months. I also developed a heart condition in the same time that I’ll never recover from. It wasn’t from being fat. It was from starving myself. I was congratulated and cookied and pet on the back and the only person worried was my mom. BTW super fat again now, but dammit, I’m ALIVE. I’m glad what happened to you didn’t actually kill you, OP. And fuck everyone who was ignoring the fact that you could have actually been dying.

Everyone else—LET’S NOT ENCOURAGE TEENAGERS TO STARVE THEMSELVES OVER SUMMER BREAK, MKAY? Fuck this “Insatiable” show five ways. I hope it gets pulled.

-ATL

I would like to add some context to this post.

This illness all started immediately after finals week in May of 2016. It began with nausea and other gastrointestinal problems. I was so sick and weak that I could barely get out of bed and walk the ten feet to the bathroom. I ate nothing for several days because everything, even the most bland food we could find, made me sick.

I went to a clinic. The doctor took one look at me, a fat person, and said I was obviously diabetic. She had me do a blood test and prescribed me an antacid and an anti-nausea med. Nothing helped and I spent the next week in hell. When I went back to the clinic to review the test results, she made me do ANOTHER blood test because my first one came back negative for diabetes and she just couldn’t believe it so she did another quick one. Surprise, it was still negative. She said she didn’t know what my problem was but said I needed to immediately cut out all dairy, a major source of nutrition for me for much of my life, and probably go on a paleo diet. She was so surprised that a fat person didn’t have diabetes that she wouldn’t even try to help me further.

Shockingly (sarcasm), my problems persisted. The next week I traveled from Florida to Minnesota for the summer months. I was still incredibly miserable and not eating. I began to think it was all due to my extremely irregular menstruales cycle, and once again went to a clinic. I asked the doctor if I could have PCOS and she thought it was likely. She prescribed me Yaz. She mentioned that some people who took Yaz developed blood clots but she didn’t think that would be a problem for me. She ordered more blood tests, including one a few for thyroid function, as thyroid problems run in my family.

Two days later my legs began to hurt. Two days after that they began to throb. One day after that I couldn’t walk due to pain. I had to borrow my grandmother’s walker just to be able to make it from the couch to the bathroom and the car to the clinic. It was so severe that I would lie awake at night crying. I went in to see a different doctor, who told me my pain was due to my being overweight and that I should just go home and take Tylenol. I’ve been fat my entire life, but I’ve always been able to walk. My mom begged him to at least run a blood test to check for blood clots. She pointed out that my legs were red, hot, and swollen, to which the doctor replied that it was “subtle at best”. He grudgingly agreed to order a blood test to check for blood clots, but guaranteed it would come back negative.

Two hours later his nurse called me, the doctor audibly telling her what to say, to tell me to immediately go to the emergency room. The blood test indicated major clotting and I needed to begin blood-thinning medication as soon as possible. For the next ten days I gave myself lovanox shots in the stomach.

The day after I went to the ER, I had an ultrasound that confirmed I had what I was later told were several small “superficial” blood clots in my left leg only. The reason was because I inherited the Factor V Leiden clotting gene from both my parents, making me vastly more likely than other people to develop blood clots. I will have to take blood thinners the rest of my life.

I was still experiencing stomach problems and barely eating. When my thyroid test results came back, they showed they were beginning to fall out of line. My doctor referred me to an endocrinologist in a larger city a half hour away, for whom I had to wait a month to see. I was not prescribed any thyroid medication. All that month I continued to suffer stomach problems and barely eat. I was able to eat a little more than the previous month, as I narrowed down which foods I absolutely could not tolerate and which were usually tolerable. I couldn’t eat dairy, citrus, tomato products, any oil, anything with fat, most fruits and vegetables, salty foods, anything remotely spicy, anything with vinegar, anything acidic, and most meats. I lived off minute rice, Tostitos, fat-free shortbread, an occasional turkey burger patty, small amounts of boiled chicken, and water.

The endocrinologist ordered a new round of blood tests and a nuclear scan of my thyroid. Both revealed that my thyroid was getting progressively worse. I was diagnosed with thyroiditis and prescribed nothing, being told it would even out eventually.

Two or so weeks later I began experiencing severe stomach and back pain that appeared rapidly over the course of a few days. I couldn’t sit due to the pain. My mom brought me to the emergency room and I was given fentanyl, which didn’t even work, and then morphine. Further testing revealed I had kidney stones but had appeared to pass them while in the ER. The stones were never captured so their composition and type remain unknown.

Hearing of my latest trip to the ER, my original doctor (who prescribed me the Yaz that triggered my blood clots) told me to come back in for another appointment. She told me nothing new and advised me to “be glad that we caught this when we did and not when you start having children”. I broke down and left the room. It was at this meeting where she congratulated me on starving.

I was able to get into a more prestigious clinic, where I was assigned a team of physicians who reviewed my problems. They ran dozens of new tests over the next few days ranging from blood tests to an upper endoscopy (which I endured completely unsedated because I’m immune to fentanyl, their sedative). They discovered that

1) my thyroid had almost completely ceased functioning

2) the blood clots in my legs were not several small, superficial clots, but massive ones that would have entered my major veins within a day or two and likely caused a stroke or pulmonary embolism had I not begun blood-thinners when I did.

3) my kidney stones were quite possibly due to the sudden cutting out of dairy and calcium, resulting in any body trying to produce its own calcium and instead creating calcium-based kidney stones.

4) my weight is largely due to PCOS and thyroid problems, and regular diet and exercise will never be enough for me to lose the amount of weight I need.

5) my stomach problems were caused by a sudden shock to my system that completely screwed up the function of my digestive tract, causing my liver to produce acid that created extreme irritation.

I was eventually prescribed thyroid medication, a different type of birth control to treat my PCOS, and stomach medication. My treatment at this clinic is ongoing but has slowed down considerably now that I have some form of a functioning treatment plan. Of course, my family is now even more broke and in-debt than before.

I’m telling you all of this because it corroborates my original point: society fatally hates fatness. The doctor in Florida refused to try and treat me, a fat person without a disease that fat people are commonly assumed to have, because she simply didn’t know or care what else could have been causing a fat person’s health problems. She recommended a diet that other physicians have since told me was totally inappropriate for my needs, which may have caused the development of kidney stones. The first doctor I saw in Minnesota congratulated me on losing drastic amounts of weight due to literally starvation and malnutrition. The second doctor I saw in Minnesota dismissed my sudden and debilitating leg pain as a side effect of being fat, and if I had followed his original advice, I could easily have had a stroke or pulmonary embolism. My problems were not caused by fatphobia, but it greatly exacerbated them and almost proved fatal.

Society’s obsession with weight and disdain for fat people, such as is displayed in “Insatiable” are a symptom and a further aggravator of a complete disregard for the health of those whose bodies are deemed unattractive and worthless. And that is why the show is absolute flaming garbage.

I feel all of this so much. When I was in my early years of undergrad, I spent a lot of time not being able to eat, throwing up food (and water) that I was able to ingest, and avoiding food because I couldn’t stand the discomfort of not digesting anything. When I was finally taken in (after a week of this), I was diagnosed with “nervous stomach” (which was a result of anxiety) by my doctor. He further completed the diagnosis with saying that I’d “done well” in losing 15lb (around 6kg)

I actually had an H. pylori infection, which was causing ulcers. Because it went untreated for too long, I now get to deal with peptic ulcers.

I was refused treatment for a spinal injury for years because the pain was ‘just because of your weight’ despite MRI scans showing actual real damage after the accident. After different doctors told me to ‘just lose weight’ I began to believe them and started to starve myself (the back pain is still so bad I can’t do most exercise). The doctors practically applauded me even when my organs were starting to shut down, but they still wouldn’t do anything about the back pain until my BMI reached an ‘acceptable amount’.

In the end my mother took me to the doctors and demanded emergency help because I was fainting constantly, was ice cold and had a pulse rate of under 50bpm. 3 months later I was finally diagnosed as having several fractured vertebrae and put on a pain management plan and there’s a big warning on my medical record that says telling me to lose weight is bloody dangerous.

Also when I had anorexia at age 16 I was never in the ‘underweight’ BMI category even when my bones were sticking out of my skin. Yes ‘big boned’ IS a real thing!

so i know that my body is in starvation mode always because of poverty, to preface. but i always get really intense cravings right before my EBT card re-ups. So, when there is very little food in the house, all i can think about is food. it’s weird. i can’t stop thinking about orange juice right now. is there a science reason for this?

bigfatscience:

There IS a scientific reason for it! It’s called “starvation syndrome,” which is a constellation of psychological and physical changes that result from consuming less energy than your body needs to thrive.  

The syndrome was first described by researchers during the Second World War who studied a group of men who ate a reduced-calorie diet of just 1,600 calorie/day for three months. The researchers wanted to document the effects of starvation due to wartime interruptions in food supplies, and this amount of calories was deemed similar to what many war refugees were eating at the time (a fact that is quite disturbing when you consider that most weight-loss diets direct people to voluntarily consume this same small amount of food). 

Researchers carefully documented the outcomes of this restrictive eating and this is what they found [all quotes from Junkfood Science]:

As the men lost weight, their physical endurance dropped by half, their strength about 10%, and their reflexes became sluggish… The men’s resting metabolic rates declined by 40%, their heart volume shrank about 20%, their pulses slowed and their body temperatures dropped. They complained of feeling cold, tired and hungry; having trouble concentrating; of impaired judgment and comprehension; dizzy spells; visual disturbances; ringing in their ears; tingling and numbing of their extremities; stomach aches, body aches and headaches; trouble sleeping; hair thinning; and their skin growing dry and thin. Their sexual function and testes size were reduced and they lost all interest in sex. They had every physical indication of accelerated aging.

The psychological changes were just as disturbing, and included nervousness, anxiety, depression, loss of interest in hobbies, and social withdrawal. Most relevant to your Ask, the men’s relationship with food also changed dramatically:

…they became obsessed with food, thinking, talking and reading about it constantly; developed weird eating rituals; began hoarding things; consumed vast amounts of coffee and tea; and chewed gum incessantly (as many as 40 packages a day). Binge eating episodes also became a problem as some of the men were unable to continue to restrict their eating in their hunger.

I am sure this will all sound very familiar to anyone who has dieted to lose weight or suffered from food insecurity or suffered from an eating disorder! The body needs energy to survive and to thrive, and if it doesn’t get it, you are going to “hear” about it. 

myceliorum:

appalachian-ace:

fatphobiabusters:

My boyfriend’s mom is on a diet (Weight Watchers) because her doctor told her that she needed to lose weight because of her health.

My boyfriend’s mom? Is skinny.

If I had to guess her size, I’d say she’s a 6 in US women’s.

How could she possibly need to lose weight??

She eats healthy. She exercises. She takes good care of herself. What possible health conditions could she have that means she needs to lose weight?

-Mod Bella

My guess is BMI lying more than usual but still being treated as a worthwhile metric.

Mainly because I’m in a similar situation, thankfully with a doctor’s office who accepts I’m fine with my setpoint range. But their office software still highlights my weight as something they should be concerned about because my BMI lies high (literally lies – BMI had previously claimed I was healthy when I was almost dangerously underweight and there are documented inherited reasons for this). I’m not skinny anymore clothing-wise, but I was miserable when I was that small and felt better when I widened out a bit.

I’m not kidding, I’ve seen the screen. BMI alone gets me the ‘look, there’s a statistic of concern, unhealthy patient alert’ orange highlighting.

I’ve done the back calculations from BMI standards. If my smart scale is even slightly accurate about body composition, for me to barely enter the software’s idea of ‘normal’ ‘healthy’ weight I’d have to drop into proven-to-be-unhealthy body fat percentage territory.

This is from me walking places casually reasonably often in everyday life. If I was an active athlete, it would be completely impossible. Every pound of lean weight I gain by being active is a pound of fat the software doesn’t want me to keep, and training for competition in anything would quite likely mean no longer being allowed to possess *breasts* without ‘talk to this patient about her weight’ visual alerts (to put things incredibly bluntly).

So I’m lucky. They listen. And my health insurance hasn’t decided to make an issue of it either.

But if they ever give in to pressure and talk to every patient who gets their weight highlighted by the software, I’ll likely be urged to diet until I start dropping cup sizes. And even ‘succeeding’ at that may not be enough weight loss to shut it off.

(After all, the last time I had a ‘normal’ BMI was at least one age-related hormonal shift ago, and even back then that was skinny enough to make me sick and perpetually cold. When I say I’m cool with my current setpoint, I mean it healthwise as well as appearance-wise)

When I was starving so badly my bones were poking into things no matter what position I was in and I was visibly emaciated, my BMI said I was healthy, I think.  Now I’m just fat (and unhealthy, but only related tangentially) and I have to get crap like “Why do you need a feeding tube?”  Because my fucking stomach is paralyzed, asshole, and believe it or not you can lose a shockingly dangerous amount of weight and die from it before being thin.  But also you can need a feeding tube for all kinds of reasons and be any weight at all.  Feeding tubes are not just for visibly emaciated skinny people, they’re for anyone who needs to bypass the usual eating system for any of a huge number of reasons.  (In my case, my stomach is not quite a dead-end street but might as well be.  It needs one tube to drain so stomach fluid doesn’t build up and go into my lungs, and another tube to bypass it entirely and go straight to my intestines so I can get food at all.) And not all those reasons make you skinny.  And even if they make you lose dangerous amounts of weight you still might not be skinny.  (I lost 75 pounds too rapidly to be remotely safe but I was still fat.)

crazy-pages:

bigmouthlass:

fadingthebiscuit:

to-dance-beneath-the-diamond-sky:

naamahdarling:

naamahdarling:

little-limabean:

runtrovert:

Friendly reminder that 1200 calories is the recommended amount for a 5 year old

this hit me.

another fact is that 500 calories isn’t even enough for a new born.

why did I go so long convinced that going over 500 in a day was the end of the world?

Another friendly reminder that the United States used 1,000 calorie diets as torture for political prisoners and justified it using the diet industry.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/bush-torture-memos-commer_n_188190.html

In a footnote to a May 10, 2005, memorandum from the Office of Legal Council, the Bush attorney general’s office argued that restricting the caloric intake of terrorist suspects to 1000 calories a day was medically safe because people in the United States were dieting along those lines voluntarily.

“While detainees subject to dietary manipulation are obviously situated differently from individuals who voluntarily engage in commercial weight-loss programs, we note that widely available commercial weight-loss programs in the United States employ diets of 1000 kcal/day for sustain periods of weeks or longer without requiring medical supervision,” read the footnote. “While we do not equate commercial weight loss programs and this interrogation technique, the fact that these calorie levels are used in the weight-loss programs, in our view, is instructive in evaluating the medical safety of the interrogation technique.”

Another another friendly reminder that the Minnesota Starvation Experiment subjected adult men who were VOLUNTEERS to 1,560 calorie diets and the psychological effects were so profound that one volunteer cut three of his own fingers off and could not remember why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

These men were volunteers who knew exactly what they would be going through and when it would end, and who believed they were doing it for a good and moral reason (the research was used to help rehabilitate victims of starvation and famine at the end of WWII).

And these are the things we are expected to engage in FOREVER to stay at a “healthy” weight.

Reading about the Minnesota Starvation experiment was my wake-up call.  It was what kicked me out of my eating disorder.  The guy missing three fingers, whatever his name was, he was the last straw for me.

Scared me so fucking bad I stopped restricting my food that day, and never went back to it.

Just bringin’ this back around like I sometimes do.

Wow. This really hit me hard.

EAT

Fun fact– calorie restriction exacerbates symptoms of pretty much *every* mental illness.

Anorexia has ~16% mortality rate, slightly higher than acted upon suicidal ideation. It’s more lethal than actively trying to kill oneself and this is why.

Hi, first off, thank you for this blog! I wanted to ask, do you have any science that explains why some people don’t lose weight even while starving? I get confused over this especially when trying to argue against fatphobia, so gaining a better understanding would help me. Because isn’t fat stored in the body to help in times of starvation? But then how come some people don’t lose weight/stay fat even while starving? I don’t doubt it happens, I know it does, I just don’t really understand why.

bigfatscience:

bigfatscience:

bigfatscience:

sad–ghost–kid:

bigfatscience:

This is a good blog post on The Eating Disorder Institute (formerly Your Eatopia) about the topic: “

Gaining Weight Despite Calorie Restriction

” The author includes many scientific sources.

In general, though, your confusion comes from the over-simplified myths about weight that permeate our culture.

First, fat is not only an energy storage device, it is also an important endocrine organ. This means that the fat organ regulates hormones, and thus, helps to regulate the functioning of many other organ systems in the body. So the fat organ can grow in response to non-food-related factors, like chronic stress or sleep deprivation, as part of the body’s adaptive response to those factors. (And guess what is stressful? Dieting and weight loss.)

Second, when people do not consume enough energy to meet their needs, two biological processes are triggered. The first is catabolism, which is the process of breaking down the body’s cells to release the energy and nutrients stored in those cells. That energy is then used to fuel the body. This is what people usually think happens when people restrict their food intake to lose weight: the body breaks down fat for energy. Of course, when catabolism does happen, fat calls are not the only cells that are broken down: the body also breaks down muscles, organs, bones, and ligaments to access necessary nutrients and energy. (Yikes.)

But the second process that is triggered by an energy deficit is metabolic suppression: The body slows down all the basic, life sustaining processes of the body to conserve energy. 

Losing approximately 10% of your body weight initially slows these life sustaining processes by approximately 15%. And people continue to restrict their energy intake, over time, these life sustaining processes can slow by as much as 30%. Metabolic suppression can also become more reactive over time and repeated bouts of starvation (aka “dieting”). So someone who has dieted in the past will have a metabolism that slows more quickly and more dramatically in response to food restriction compared to someone who has never dieted.

So a person can gain weight while restrictive dieting because an energy deficit causes the body to slow all the life sustaining processes of the body in favour of growing the fat organ, which helps the body to survive in times of stress.

This is some serious shit, people, and it’s a big part of the reason that intentional weight loss through restrictive dieting is so unhealthy.

so if the metabolism is slowed, how does that impact the energy deficit? does it mean less calories are “needed”? because that could work out, stating probably too simply, that if less energy is being used then there is more excess to store as fat.

and if fat growth is happening despite restriction, is catabolization happening?

(sorry if you cant answer these)

“so if the metabolism is slowed, how does that impact the energy deficit? does it mean less calories are “needed”? 

Weight loss is often framed that way: Oh, your metabolism is slowed, so you don’t *need* as many calories as other people need! Just keep eating less and you will maintain your smaller body! 

But maintaining your body in a state of suppressed matabolism is not a good thing. It literally means that your body has instituted emergency measures to survive. Any non-essential physiological processes – like the  reproductive system – are dramatically slowed and can be stopped completely. And even essential bodily processes like the transmission of fluids into and out of cells (the most basic biological function), to the regeneration of cells, to the functioning of the immune system, to the re-myelenation of nerves (essential for their function) are all slowed down. 

This is literally what it means when the sources I linked above say that the basal metabolic rate is slowed by weight loss: The body is slowing down all of its essential, life-sustaining physiological processes in order to survive. That is not a good thing. It is not a state that any organism can or should sustain in the longterm. 

PS: And yes, when those basic processes are slowed, it can “free up” energy to grow the fat organ.

Reblogging for the person who was asking what happens when you eat less than your body requires to thrive. Basically, you destroy your body. Don’t do it. 

This is how the body defends its own, unique, set point weight.

“20% of households with children don’t have enough to eat.” It baffles me when people in the US say this. Perhaps they are hungry, but let’s be clear: They are not starving to death. In so many countries, people DIE from not having enough food. That is what “doesn’t have enough to eat” means.

lenyberry:

pervocracy:

oh well then I guess it’s totally cool then

kids aren’t starving to death for the most part, everything is a-okay, let’s cancel social progress and have a set-money-on-fire party instead

Well, I mean, as long as kids aren’t literally dying from lack of food. 

Nevermind that kids who deal with food insecurity (meaning: they don’t always know when they’re next going to be able to eat, they’re frequently hungry without being able to solve that problem) struggle in school, because hunger is distracting, stress and worry (which are normal when you don’t have enough to eat) are distracting, and also if you’re running low on blood sugar your brain just can’t function at optimum. Nevermind that they frequently also struggle to behave ‘appropriately’, because hunger is frustrating and constant hunger is exhausting, not to mention the aggravation of knowing that it’s unfair that they have to be hungry when their classmates have plenty to eat, when food is getting thrown away in front of them. Nevermind that they’re much more likely to suffer from preventable illnesses, because chronic hunger fucks up one’s immune system and leaves one vulnerable to diseases, nevermind that malnutrition in childhood can permanently stunt people’s growth and development, causing chronic lifelong issues. 

None of that matters. They’re not actually dying.

…hey anon? Get bent. You don’t have to have the worst possible problem out of a given category of “problem” in the world in order to have a valid problem that deserves to be addressed.