I’m going to shove that into the face of the next person who tries to get outraged at me bc I love Fight Club
I mean, I get the satire, but I also love Fight Club on a totally non-satirical level. It’s the best fictional representation I’ve ever seen of a very particular kind of [screams internally]. I saw/read it at exactly the right time for it to be maximally cathartic to me, and I will never apologize for that. My experience with people who unironically savor the violent aspects of the film isn’t that they’re dumb privileged assholes – it’s that they’re in a particular kind of pain that Fight Club is uniquely suited to address. I know this because that was me!
People can enjoy it for whatever reasons they please, and I don’t want to come off as “it’s only okay if you’re shipping to cope”, but…I wish people would recognize that there *is* a large amount of “I like this to cope” in Fight Club fandom. And in the backlash I’ve found this note of “white men aren’t psychologically complex enough to like things for non-superficial reasons or to have private pains that manifest in oblique ways”, which is disturbing. As though the idea of men liking something violent because it scratches a psychological itch or soothes a personal pain is too sophisticated for those boorish idiots – clearly they just like the explosions. Women are allowed to be complicated enough to find subtlety and granularity, but everyone knows men can’t be trusted with it.
…also, you can know that something is satire or is meant to mock its characters but identify with them anyway
^ this is a way more concise version of that fucking novel I just wrote
but that’s okay because the fucking novel you just wrote is great 👍🏼
there used to be fewer winning zip codes though; I grew up in an extremely liberal post-hippie town in a blue state and it was still pretty much like “if this then best move to SF or maybe NYC fucking asap, maybe up to and including running away from home as a minor” wrt being gay in the late 80s and I do feel like that’s changed quite a bit for sexual orientation stuff
gayness in the late 80s
there were 450 people at my grades 9 through 12 high school, and I can think of 4 that I was aware were gay at the time, and not because they were all proudly out of the closet
one was a super obvious, really sweet guy who cultivated a highly vocal crush on Madonna and we all liked him so we just let him do that because that’s what felt kind. one kid was What? I’m a Theater Kid, Theater, Also It’s The 80s I Can Have A Forelock If I Want, one there was just heavy rumor, one was my friend P who was a nice sad closeted preppy boy I wouldn’t ever have clocked if I didn’t hang out with him and even so we never talked about it, not once. no girls at all, although looking back now I can’t believe I didn’t connect the dots wrt one
basically? nobody came out till they went away to college. that was just how that was. you wanted to get out of the immediate social and family crucible first. we didn’t have internet yet, the couple hundred people around you were the only world you had. at some point in my thirties I found out my old high school now had a gay/straight alliance and I think I literally cried
again: this was a small sheltered private school in a lefty hippie town in Massachusetts
Do any other 80s kids (or older, but I think kids got a lot of it) remember the basic health information type brochures on HIV/AIDS and how intensely heavily they blamed the epidemic on bisexual men?
Because I sure do remember feeling suspicious of bisexual men and wondering why they would be so terribly irresponsible and so hurtful to all the rest of us as to spread the plague in ways even gay men didn’t.
If anyone is wondering why I immediately shut down someone the other day for telling a bi man to shut up about homophobia because wlw have it worse?
That shit is why.
Do not try to tell me, someone born in 1979, that homophobia and biphobia against bi men wasn’t as bad as anything else because I will pee in your cereal bowl.
“bi men are responsible for spreading HIV” totally yes, but it was actually worse than that
it was “actually there’s no such thing as a bi man and anyone who says he is one is lying because he doesn’t want to admit to being gay, therefore he’s exactly the sort of terrible deceitful person who would selfishly spread HIV”
with a hefty side of “oh and bisexuality doesn’t exist period, it just extra specially doesn’t exist in men, in women it’s sort of a thing but only in a totally fake immature phase bullshit way”
and both of those messages were coming from the gay community just as much as or maybe even more than from the straight oppressors
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Yep, that’s true.
Also there was a heaping spoonful of racism mixed in, at least from what I remember. People did a lot of sensationalist talking about black men “on the down low.”
Reblogging again to add that I also remember too well when bi women were supposedly bringing Filthy Diseases to unsuspecting Decent Lesbians. At least partly thanks to proximity to bi men, I can only assume, though I don’t recall hearing it outright. Any men were bad enough.
(That would of course be besides the health threat to straight men, because assumed promiscuity and lack of selectiveness. Plus likely the association with plague-carrying bi men, again.)
It was a total fucking mess well up into the ‘90s, that I saw directly.
Re: Massachusetts.
By the early 2000s you could be gay in public high school but you would still likely be stuck with a smaller amount of people who find you acceptable.
My mother informs me as of when our gay marrige bill passed over a decade ago now, non of the adults she knew were ok with it and at most supporrd civil unions. Again. Liberal eastern MA suburbs. One of my friend got kicked out for being a lesbian.
Things are better now but to be clear: the law forced people to accept they were on the wrong side. Not the other way around. The same people who objected will now act like they have always supported gay rights now because it’s now not acceptable to admit you didn’t.
Man, when I was like 16 I got so sick of being made fun of for being the fat kid that I took an axe down inna woods, chopped down a tree, and started doing log-lifts all the time. I got strong as fuck, but I didn’t lose no weight. I actually got bigger.
Same thing happened when I got into fighting. I got even stronger, and I got *fast*, man, and nimble, like a cat. Still chubby.
Body-building culture is a bunch of crap, my dude. Functional muscle is not necessarily toned or lean. You can be swole as hell and still be heavy. And that’s cool.
Embrace your inner barbarian. And when fatphobic little gym twinks try to body shame you, you should DESTROY THEM with your MIGHTY AXE
Can comfirm, i am Quite Fat ™ but i still hit my punching bag hard enough last week make it touch the ceiling and broke a finger in the process
You know, I train with (martial arts) a bunch of dudes, and a few bodybuilders have showed up over the years.
And every damn one of those huge shredded motherfuckers has the endurance of a fucking newborn puppy. Fifteen minutes into warmups and they’re panting for air like like they’re about to die. I’ve sparred them and every one of them telegraphs their moves about two weeks in advance, and are slower than my dead grandpa because their huge useless muscles get in the damn way.
Now. I also work with a couple of guys who are not weightlifters. They do, however, do very physical jobs and are Big Dudes. Picture this sort of build.
No abs to speak of, a bit of a tummy, and those motherfuckers can pick up one of the weightlifters and throw them.
And they’re fast. Like, unfair fast.
Bodybuilding culture is bullshit. Embrace your status as a giant barbarian and if anyone gives you crap throw them off a mountain.
i love and support all strong, fat people
This is my body type and the body type of every male in my family. We are all broad dudes but also have a lot of muscle but we never actually look leaner. It used to be a problem for me bc I though I wasnt doing enough to loose weight and would just push harder and get bigger and while i could snap anyone in half in highschool I never was toned like the other guys in class. It still causes me some body dysphoria but this post does make me feel better.
Legally a house can be haunted and failure to disclose that the property is haunted can constitute fraudulent misrepresentation and is grounds for recession of contract. Meaning poltergeists are legally treated the same as termites or other pests.
The issue came up in a case where a family bought a house and later discovered it was on a ghost tour. The buyer had no way of knowing the house was haunted since that’s no something buyer’s usually ask, but the previous owner knew and should have disclosed it. Since the owner had reported paranormal activity in both local and national publications describing at length how haunted the house was court decided he couldn’t very well say there’s no such thing as ghosts now.
This resulted in legal president that recognizes the existence of haunted houses. Also the court’s opinion is probably the most entertaining legal opinion you will ever read.
i would love to see smth where someone moves into a new house, finds out its haunted, and their first and lasting reaction is im gonna sue the shit out of that bastard who sold me this house
You go to a ghost movie expecting the standard horror fare only to discover it’s actually a legal drama
I am duty bound to tag @ramblingandpie (although I know it’s different branch of law)
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