apricops:

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ratguzzler:

ratguzzler:

im sorry did i miss something or are people advocating for the actual real life mafia right now

is this a mad lib

I saw that thread, he said the Mafia shows how you don’t need hierarchies and can be successful in commiting crimes purely on a system of honor. He missed a few things:

1) the honor stuff is mostly bullshit, they’re psychopaths who murder each other all the time, it’s how John Gotti came to power.

2) The Mafia is completely hierarchial, even the glamorized movie versions, which is clearly where his image of them was coming from.

3) To the extent they do follow any of their own rules, they do it because they’re afraid of being murdered and because they make shitloads of money. They put up with the chain of command because this is the only job where a high school dropout with an IQ of 85 can make high six figures.

4) They’re not successful, they barely exist anymore. They were already in decline when Sammy The Bull put the final nail in the coffin and turned over the entire Gambino family. In the middle of the 20th century that had an estimated half a million members, now it’s down to roughly 2,000, and with no political power or central coordination.

But sure, go ahead, mimic this extremely successful organization without giving anyone any money and with people who have economic opportunities that won’t get them killed.

how much of an absolute dipshit do you have to be to think the Mafia isn’t hierarchical. How do you look at an organization where people are literally referred to as ‘Don’ and go “oh yes, this strikes me as following anarchist principles”